Re: RFC and I-D Citation Tool

There are a number of very weird entries that require special handling.  I 
(also) wrote a Python script to convert the XML file to bibtex and had to deal 
with a number of these special cases.  For example, RFC 4534 lists the authors 
as "A Colegrove, H Harney" instead of "A. Colegrove, H. Harney".  Other names 
like "The Internet Society" require special handling.  And I completely punted 
on proper capitalization of the titles; I just accept what's there.

On Jul 31, 2012, at 2:23 PM, Ole Jacobsen wrote:

> Mehmet,
>
> The tool is not INTENDED to change the author order. A somewhat 
> incomplete database can indeed lead to unexpected results, use with 
> caution.
>
> Ole
>
> Ole J. Jacobsen
> Editor and Publisher,  The Internet Protocol Journal
> Cisco Systems
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>
>
> On Tue, 31 Jul 2012, Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich) wrote:
>
> > Nice tool. 
> >
> > However, I am wondering why the tool changes the order of the names.
> > There is actually a reason why documents list names in a specific order.
> >
> > Some of the citations appear to be incomplete, see RFC3410.
> >
> > Cheers, 
> > Mehmet 
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org 
> > > [mailto:ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org] On Behalf
> > Of ext Ole
> > > Jacobsen
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 11:17 AM
> > > To: The IETF
> > > Cc: RSOC; Heather Flanagan; rsag(_at_)rfc-editor(_dot_)org
> > > Subject: RFC and I-D Citation Tool
> > >
> > >
> > > In The Internet Protocol Journal I have been using the following
> > > citation format, best illustrated by an example:
> > >
> > > Julien Meuric, Diego Caviglia, Don Fedyk, Attila Takacs, and Lou
> > > Berger, "GMPLS Asymmetric Bandwidth Bidirectional Label Switched
> > > Paths (LSPs)," RFC 6387, September 2011.
> > >
> > > So, that's full author names "and" before the last author name, title,
> > > document number and date, using the American "quotation outside
> > > punctuation rule."
> > >
> > > I got tired of doing this "by hand" so I asked Henrik if he could
> > > write me a tool. He did (THANKS!), and the result is here:
> > >
> > > http://tools.ietf.org/tools/citation/
> > >
> > > This will take either the draft name or the RFC number as input and
> > > produce a citation similar to the one above. You can of course play
> > > with the elements and generate a format that suits your own taste, for
> > > example, for I-Ds, in print it might be good to have the FILE NAME as
> > > the last entry:
> > >
> > > Adam Langley, "Serializing DNS Records with DNSSEC Authentication,"
> > > Internet Draft, work in progress, July 2011,
> > > draft-agl-dane-serializechain-01
> > >
> > > ...since I like having filenames or URLs on one line (not wrapping)
> > > as much as possible.
> > >
> > > Many thanks again to Henrik, and I hope you will find it useful too!
> > >
> > > Ole
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ole J. Jacobsen
> > > Editor and Publisher,  The Internet Protocol Journal
> > > Cisco Systems
> > > Tel: +1 408-527-8972   Mobile: +1 415-370-4628
> > > E-mail: ole(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com  URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj
> > > Skype: organdemo

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