Sorry for sending the mail too fast. I finish it.
2012/8/15 Marie-France Berny <mfberny(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com>
Brian,
let be candid. The text of Bernard Adoba (Microsoft) is 100% in line with
the Microsoft political line broadly publish under cover of Human Rights as
the Global Network Initiative (http://www.globalnetworkinitiative.org/).
Since the co-founder/influencer of GNI is Google (with Yahoo!) also with
Microsoft a jewell member of ISOC, and that Russ Housley is security
specialist involved in the IEEE, this text, its signatoree and first
supporter were quickly identified in the political world as a confirmation
that the IAB is (now the IETF is an affiliate of ISOC) politically and
could therefore most probably technically be biaised in favor of the
interest of the US industry dominants club.
Obviously, in political situations nothing is first degree. So, the
question is why M$, Google, IBM, Yahoo!, Oracle etc. (the Unicode
consortium, your company belongs to) are exposing the credibility of the
IETF neutrality at this stage? There might be a global security oriented
concern. There is certainly a concern regarding the multilinguistics of the
Internet (leading to a multilatteral Internet). There is also the rogue
attitude of ICANN to correct. There is also the lack of innovation due to
the IETF slow-down. May be the Indian sub-continent oriented search of
influence vs. China and Russia.
Frankly we are not interested in this in here. We are concerned by network
and network technology neutrality and best user interests. All this is to
try to defensively balkanize the net. Please, let discuss our common bits,
not the others' sins. Technical standards are not supposed to govern the
world, democratically elected government are. We are not interested in
protecting merchant interests and processes, but protocols and people.
My 3 cents.
MFBerny
2012/8/15 Brian E Carpenter
<brian(_dot_)e(_dot_)carpenter(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com>
On 15/08/2012 07:24, Eliot Lear wrote:
John,
On 8/15/12 12:03 AM, John E Drake wrote:
Hi,
Does this document actually have a purpose, and if so, what is it?
To me (and I speak only for me here), the purpose of this document is to
articulate principles that have made the Internet a success. It is a
means to invite others to subscribe to those same principles, and there
are many standards organizations that do not. Customers and society can
demand better, and this is an avenue for that.
I take it that John's question is really *why* do these principles need to
be articulated in public. Perhaps the IAB should answer that, but my
answer
is: because there is a real danger of some SDOs, including but not limited
to the ITU-T, breaking them for a variety of commercial or political
reasons.
Brian