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Re: Last Call: <draft-gp-obsolete-icmp-types-iana-01.txt> (Formally Deprecating Some ICMPv4 Message Types) to Proposed Standard

2013-01-18 13:44:00
Donald,

On Jan 17, 2013, at 8:09 PM, Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com> 
wrote:

I have a wording problem with this as below:

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 10:57 AM, The IESG 
<iesg-secretary(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org> wrote:

The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider
the following document:
- 'Formally Deprecating Some ICMPv4 Message Types'
 <draft-gp-obsolete-icmp-types-iana-01.txt> as Proposed Standard

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
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Abstract

  A number of ICMPv4 message types have become obsolete in practice,
  but have never been formally deprecated.  This document deprecates
  such ICMPv4 message types, thus cleaning up the corresponding IANA
  registry.  Additionally, it updates RFC792 and RFC950, obsoletes
  RFC1788, and requests the RFC Editor to change the status of RFC1788
  to "Historic".

I'm OK with deprecating these ICMPv4 message types. But this could be
said to "clean up" the IANA registry only, in my opinion, if the
entries were removed, which would be a bad idea. But the draft does
not remove these entries or simplify the registry, it annotates the
entries. I consider the wording "clean up", as used here, to be
misleading.

I suggest the second sentence of the abstract be changed to "This
document deprecates such ICMPv4 message types and annotates the
corresponding IANA registry entries." and that corresponding changes
be made elsewhere in the draft where "clean up" is used.


I think this is a good call out and support the proposal, "annotate" being more 
precise. Does it also need to qualify usability aspects of an annotated 
registry (i.e., the value of a bit more organized up-to-some-point-in-time)? I 
think implicit is fine, but thought I'd bring it up.

Thanks,

-- Carlos.


Thanks,
Donald
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