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Re: Consensus on the responsibility for qualifications? (Was: Re: Nomcom is responsible for IESG qualifications)

2013-03-13 13:35:03

By way of testing whether I understand your text, here is a re-coding, meant 
to be simplistic and procedural:

  1. The body (and/or the controlling documents for the body) defines its 
slots (positions).  Nomcom fills the slots.

  2. The body offers its view of the requirements for these positions, but 
these are merely advisory to the work of Nomcom

  3. The community comments on the requirements for positions.

  4. Nomcom makes its own decision about the criteria it will use for 
selecting nominees; as such, it really is defining the /actual/ requirements 
for positions.

Agreed.



The task I think I agreed to, on Monday, was to formulate language changes to 
RFC 3777, to make this more clear.

Herewith:

  7. Unless otherwise specified, the advice and consent model is used
...
     2. The nominating committee selects candidates based on its
        understanding of the IETF community's consensus of the
        qualifications required and advises each confirming body of its
        respective candidates.

In practical terms, Nomcom is not in a position to conduct an actual (formal) 
community-wide consensus process.  It can solicit comments and it can gauge 
those comments.  But to characterize this sequence as an "understanding of 
the IETF community's consensus" is unrealistic and counterproductive, in my 
view.

So I suggest:

     2. The nominating committee selects candidates based on its
        determination of the requirements for the job, synthesized
        from the desires expressed by the IAB, IESG or IAOC (as
        appropriate), desires express by the community, and from the
        nominating committee's own assessment; it then advises each
        confirming body of its respective candidates; the nominating
        committee shall provide supporting materials that cover its
        selections, including the final version of requirements that
        the nominating committee used when making its selections;
        these requirements shall be made public after nominees are
        confirmed.

I'm fine with that.

jari



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Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
bbiw.net


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