Hi Spencer.
I like your point. I think it is correct that collaboration is needed
between all regions for many I-Ds or related I-Ds to the region
participants interest. Cross-participation co-authoring between
regions may make better results than co-authors from same region.
Comments below,
On 5/31/13, Spencer Dawkins <spencerdawkins(_dot_)ietf(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com>
wrote:
For those of you looking at where I-D and RFC authors are from, I'd like
to suggest one other thing to look at - the extent that participants are
co-authoring with folks outside their region.
There are some I-Ds like that which was a result of meetings of an
author team of different regions and same interest. I will add another
interesting point, IMO, each region has different interests, so if you
ask in diff-region meetings of the community interest you mostly get
different responds but not if the attendance are the same persons.
It's pretty tempting for new participants to submit drafts that they
like, and maybe reaching out to their office mates as co-authors, but to
be effective in the IETF, participants have to learn how to collaborate
with folks from other IETF sponsors (including "other IETF sponsors who
compete head-to-head with your IETF sponsor"), other countries, and
other regions. "Collaboration" covers many activities, but I'm curious
what we might learn from looking at this specific kind of collaboration.
I agree totaly,
<personal self-reveal> I say this to a lot of people who don't believe
me, but I have been shy for most of my life, and it's still not easy for
me to have conversations with total strangers. That's not a cultural
challenge, and it's not a language challenge, but it is a challenge I've
faced in the IETF as *I* was learning to collaborate. For anyone who is
also learning how to do this - for me, it's been worth it.
I encourage you to continue your efforts for your progress (all have
their special issues), which I think it is what IETF is about to make
all learn for better Internet. I am experiencing a different situation
while I am trying to have discussions with people I don't know in
IETF, I get bad responses, and getting to know good people before I
meet them. I am collaborating (in reviewing ideas not authoring, and a
plan with one in future of authoring I-D) already with some that I
never met but only remotely discussed in IETF.
And anyone is
welcome to join us for drumming at IETF meetings - I bring extra drums,
and there's no telling who else you'll meet. </personal self-reveal>
I will join, we actually can plan to co-author an I-D while drumming
so we don't waste time, thanks :-)
AB