As per a request I received from you
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Dear Bernard,
Chair, IETF Remote Participation Services Committee
Thanks for your message. I am a remote participant that never ever came to
the IETF meetings and not sure if I would. I think my experience may help
your committee and it will help my investigation as well about the IETF
performance. I hope that your committee has some people that are remote to
IETF, so they have the feeling of our feelings.
My feedback (as you request it) can be as below:
< The below observation is owned by the sender to be used in future I-draft
1- I don't feel that some WG chairs give importance to remote participants,
maybe even presenters in IETF may not even know who is in remote. This
needs to be improved.
2- I rememebr that once while my participation, I asked about how many f2f
participants in the room agree or disagree, and I was noticed, but it will
be helpful if WG chairs are using Jabber while checking the consensus, and
say what is the situation, because I felt that the remote participants were
not checked if they agree or disagree only f2f participants.
3- I as remote participant when I enter a room I want to know how many
attending the room from both (f2f and remote), I only know how many are
remote, and I seen some f2f participants are also in remote so they can see
both sessions in the room.
4- We need more interaction from remote people than from f2f participants,
I have feeling that the attended f2f are driving the meeting, no equal
opportunity between participants
5- Some use the excuse of time limits, so remote people can easily be
excluded from time used because maybe not important in the room
discussions. Why do you get that feeling, IMHO all are equal and important,
otherwise the IETF should give all regions equal meeting times.
6- I got once an I-D and wanted to present it while I was remote, but the
IETF did not provide a way to enable me to present that I-D. I tried even
to find a person to present but no one done for me. I was excluded even
when I already done some efforts, does that mean that people who cannot
attend cannot get their I-D adopted?
7- I have many other points but would like to leave them to my future I-Ds
that when I get better time will share, but above are the main ones.
Best Regards
AB
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 8:06 PM, IETF Administrative Director
<iad(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>wrote:
From: iaoc-rps(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: Accessibility of IETF Remote Participation Services
For more than a decade, the IETF has tried to make it easier for remote
attendees to participate in regular and interim face-to-face meetings.
The
current tools that the IETF has been using, as well as the state of remote
participation services in the IETF was summarized by the IETF Chair in a
message to the IETF-Announce list on 5 February 2013:
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg77020.html
Section 1 summarizes the current remote participation system:
The IETF's current remote participation system ("RPS") consists of a
outbound real-time audio stream for each session carried to remote
attendees over HTTP, textual multi-user chat carried over XMPP
(commonly called Jabber), and posting of slides prior to the WG
session so that they can be downloaded from the IETF web site.
WebEx and Meetecho are experimentally supported, offering outbound
real-time audio stream synchronized to the slides for the remote
participant. Meetecho displays the Jabber Room on the screen with
slides, and it can also be used to replay the audio and slides from
a recording.
As noted in Section 4 of the IETF Chair message, the IETF is currently
soliciting
suggestions for improvements in its RPS capabilities. As part of that,
the IETF
would like to solicit feedback on the accessibility and usability of
remote participation
services by IETF participants with disabilities. If you would like to
comment on
the accessibility and usability of IETF RPS services, please send email by
July 26, 2013 to
iaoc-rps at ietf.org, Subject: RPS Accessibility, and CC:
ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org.
Bernard Aboba
Chair, IETF Remote Participation Services Committee