Re: Bruce Schneier's Proposal to dedicate November meeting to saving the

On Sep 5, 2013, at 9:36 PM, Brian E Carpenter 
<brian(_dot_)e(_dot_)carpenter(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com> wrote:
> I'm sorry, I don't detect the emergency.
I think we all knew NSA was collecting the data.   Why didn't we do something 
about it sooner?   Wasn't it an emergency when the PATRIOT act was passed?   We 
certainly thought it was an emergency back in the days of Skipjack, but then 
they convinced us we'd won.   Turns out they just went around us.