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Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCWeb

2013-12-04 04:48:29
S/MIME works pretty well for the government. Well-known, limited set of roots, 
a huge IT staff, physical certificate devices, and Marines with guns for key 
distribution. 

Not the same environment for the rest of us, however. 


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-------- Original message --------
From: Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com> 
Date:12/03/2013  10:15 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: Jim Gettys <jg(_at_)freedesktop(_dot_)org> 
Cc: Eric Burger <eburger(_at_)standardstrack(_dot_)com>,IETF Discussion 
<ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org> 
Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCWeb 




On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Jim Gettys <jg(_at_)freedesktop(_dot_)org> 
wrote:



On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Eric Burger 
<eburger(_at_)standardstrack(_dot_)com> wrote:
Agreed. The problem is not that people cannot choose between S/MIME or PGP. The 
problem is few people use anything.

Both fail the usability by mere mortals test, much less the usable by most 
geeks test...  So the experiment is meaningless.
   


+1

Basically S/MIME was implemented to gain checklist compliance and little else. 
It didn't have to work well, it just had to satisfy the government procurement 
requirement. PGP meanwhile suffered from an excess of ideological commitment. 

If we only had one standard it would have been harder for people to ignore the 
problems.


I find the defeatism quite depressing. If we know the reason the previous 
efforts have failed, all we need to do is to address them and try again. 



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