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Re: [Ianaplan] last call and IESG processing summary for draft-ietf-ianaplan-icg-response

2015-01-07 22:13:47
Sounds like double positive since consensus is a form of agreement.

How about:

"The WG achieved consensus not to include the recommendations."

Cheers!
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kindly excuse brevity and typos.
On 7 Jan 2015 20:32, "Brian E Carpenter" 
<brian(_dot_)e(_dot_)carpenter(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com>
wrote:

Try "The WG consensus did not agree with including the recommendations."

Regards
   Brian

On 08/01/2015 07:05, Milton L Mueller wrote:


-----Original Message-----
I am afraid this is incorrect. The WG consensus said that it was not
necessary to specify the exact supplemental agreements to be negotiated
-
that this should be left to the IAOC. My understanding of the document,
and
my basis for agreeing to rough consensus, was that the IAOC could pursue
these or not, as it saw fit.

I think we may be trying to say the same thing. The document discusses
what
needs to be achieved. The WG's opinion of what is necessary for the
transition. But the WG did not want to put into the document (a)
detailed
contractual language as that is an IAOC task or (b) additional requests
beyond the ones listed in the document. However, the IAOC certainly is
in
charge of all specific contract language already, and will be also in
this case.
They will also consider any additional elements that they think will be
useful
or needed, as they will always.

Great, this is my understanding, too. So you should modify the
assessment of my comments because they say "The recommendation also states
that the advocated actions are in line with the current IANAPLAN draft. The
IAOC has taken this input for consideration. It should be noted that these
recommendations were discussed as part of the WG deliberations, however.
The WG consensus did not agree with the recommendations."

That's the part that is not correct.

The WG consensus was that there should not be detailed contractual
language in the document, as you say. It did not, however, foreclose or
negate the suggestions I made for future IAOC requests, it simply said that
they should not be specified or required by the IANAPlan document. The IAOC
retains the ability to request them if it thinks it appropriate in the near
term negotiations.

I hope you understand the distinction. It was crucial to achieving rough
consensus.

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