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Re: IESG Statement on surprised authors

2015-06-02 10:05:24
Hi Brian,

I agree that there will always be exceptions (we have them now), that will
need to be handled manually, but I don't think that is a reason not to try
to handle 80% of the cases.

On your question about withdrawal, no I don't see why other authors should
have any say in whether an author withdraws or not.  It this somehow
related
to the "right to be forgotten" law? :-)

 - Larry

On 5/31/15 1:03 PM, "Brian E Carpenter" 
<brian(_dot_)e(_dot_)carpenter(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com>
wrote:

Larry,

The tools could do pretty much whatever we want, if we know what we
want, which is the tricky bit. But (as my draft points out) there
will always be exceptions, so the tools have to allow for them too.

Here's one that isn't even in my draft. Sometimes an author wants to
withdraw. Does that need approval from the co-authors?

Regards
  Brian

On 30/05/2015 10:07, Larry Kreeger (kreeger) wrote:
Hi Brian and Benoit,

If authors are added purposefully to a draft without their consent, it
is
indeed disturbing, but I hate to see IETF cycles spent dealing with
investigations if they can be avoided in an automated manner.

Isn't one way to deal with this to build additional mechanisms into the
draft submittal confirmation procedure?  I believe that currently, only
one of the author's needs to approve submission/update.  If this were
changed to require all authors to confirm the original submission, then
it
would save people-hours investigating and dealing with this.  When
submitting an updated draft, only a single author would need to approve
if
the author list didn't change.  Of course, newly added authors would
need
to approve as well if the updated draft included a new author.

Thanks, Larry

On 5/29/15 1:55 PM, "IESG Secretary" <iesg-secretary(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org> 
wrote:

IETF community,

The IESG is planning to publish an IESG statement concerning the
authorship of Internet drafts. This statement is only focused on the
situation where an IETF participant feels he/she has been erroneously
listed as an author on a draft. The statement can be seen here:

http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/SurprisedAuthors

We are seeking community feedback on this statement and welcome input
that will help encourage proper behavior. Please provide any feedback
by June 10, 2015 to either ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org or the IESG directly at
iesg(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org.

Regards,
Brian and Benoit (on behalf of the IESG)