On 11 Dec 2015, at 3:42, Harald Alvestrand wrote:
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The biggest deal seems to me to be that virtual meetings in series
(right up to weekly!!!!) are now a blessed IETF procedure.
Personally, I feel that weekly meetings can be *very* effective - but
they are also *very* exclusionary. The number of people in a working
group who can tolerate another weekly phone call in the average
working
group is likely counted on one hand - perhaps two if the WG is
intensely
popular - and these will usually be the people who are already full
time
committed to the design that is being pursued.
I agree. I think this is a matter of balancing efficiency with
inclusiveness. That balance will vary by working group, and hopefully
the chairs can do the right thing for their group.
My impression is that we should call these meetings "editor meetings",
"design team meetings" or something else - but expecting a *WG* to
show
up at weekly phonecalls is a Really Bad Idea, and we shouldn't
encorage
more WGs adopting such a practice.
I don't disagree, but we should be careful about meetings that are
labeled as "design team" or "editor" meetings, but still walk and quack
like interim meetings. If such meetings are announced to the entire
working group and cover general working group topics, they are probably
interims regardless of what you call them.
Ben.