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Re: [IAB] IAB(_at_)iab(_dot_)org mailing list closed, yet asks for comments?

2016-02-11 16:32:18
Hi Doug,

Your message to the IAB list was initially put into moderation, but it was sent 
to the IAB list.  In this case, there was about a 20 minute delay between you 
sending the message, and me releasing it from moderation.

The practice on the IAB list is that messages from people who haven't sent to 
that list before are moderated at first (to reduce spam), but are then added to 
the whitelist when the message is released from moderation.

Your request to subscribe to the IAB list was rejected, because the membership 
of that list is restricted to the IAB. I apologize if the rejection message 
from Mailman made that more confusing than it needed to be.

That said, anyone can send messages to the IAB list (though their initial 
message to the list will have to wait for moderation).

Best regards,
Cindy


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On Feb 11, 2016, at 2:10 PM, Doug Royer <douglasroyer(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com> 
wrote:


iab(_at_)iab(_dot_)org is a closed list for members only. So why are they 
asking
for comments on IETF lists?

Its a bit confusing, a post to the ietf-announce mailing list called for
comments to be sent to: iab(_at_)iab(_dot_)org.

"...Please send comments to iab(_at_)iab(_dot_)org. For comments on individual
  drafts, please include the relevant document filename in the subject
  line. ...."

What's the point of the request if we can't participate in the
discussion or know if their are points to reply to?


(Copy of original email below...)

From: IAB Executive Administrative Manager <execd(_at_)iab(_dot_)org>
To: "IETF Announcement List" <ietf-announce(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>

This is an announcement of an IETF-wide Call for Comment on
the RFC Format Drafts. These documents are being considered for
publication as Informational RFCs within the IAB stream.  The suggested
reading order is:

1. The big picture

- - - Flanagan, H., "RFC Format Framework",
  http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-iab-rfc-framework/

2. The underlying vocabulary

- - - Hoffman, P., "The 'XML2RFC' version 3 Vocabulary",
   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-iab-xml2rfc/

3. The outputs

- - - Hildebrand, J. and P. Hoffman, "HyperText Markup
  Language Request For Comments Format”,
  https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-iab-html-rfc/

- - - Flanagan, H., "Requirements for Plain Text RFCs",
  https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-iab-rfc-plaintext/

- - - Hansen, T., Masinter, L., and M. Hardy, "PDF for
  an RFC Series Output Document Format”,
  https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-iab-rfc-use-of-pdf/

- - - Brownlee, N., "SVG Drawings for RFCs: SVG 1.2 RFC",
  https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-iab-svg-rfc/

4. Generalized requirements

- - - Flanagan, H., "The Use of Non-ASCII Characters in RFCs",
  https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-iab-rfc-nonascii-00.pdf

- - - Flanagan, H., “CSS Requirements for RFCs”,
  https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-iab-rfc-css/

5. Workflow and tools (note that the examples draft will
  not become an RFC, but is necessary for the project)

- - - Hildebrand, J. and P. Hoffman, "RFC v3 Prep Tool Description",
  https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-iab-rfcv3-preptool/

- - - Hoffman, P. and T. Hansen, "Examples of the ‘XML2RFC'
  Version 2 and 3 Vocabularies”,
  http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hoffman-rfcexamples/

6. The Statements of Work

- - - http://www.nostrum.com/~rjsparks/rfced/

The Call for Comment will last until 2016-03-10. Please send comments to
iab(_at_)iab(_dot_)org. For comments on individual drafts, please include the
relevant document filename in the subject line.


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Doug Royer - (http://DougRoyer.US)
DouglasRoyer(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com
714-989-6135