John,
On 2 Feb 2017, at 17:18, John C Klensin <john-ietf(_at_)jck(_dot_)com> wrote:
Tim,
Apologies for singling out your note as an example. It isn't
the only one.
--On Thursday, February 2, 2017 15:58 +0000 Tim Chown
<tjc(_at_)ecs(_dot_)soton(_dot_)ac(_dot_)uk> wrote:
On 2 Feb 2017, at 15:39, Randal Atkinson
<rja(_dot_)lists(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com> wrote:
Most airlines, including all or nearly all major full-service
international airlines, start selling tickets at least 12
months before the departure date for the 1st flight on an
itinerary.
...
I just tried availability for flights from London to San
Francisco for July 2018 IETF. None of BA, Virgin or United
would offer tickets beyond January 2018. Perhaps it's
different for internal flights within the US?
I may be suffering from an arithmetic failure, but according to
my calendar, January 2018 is 12 months out and anything past the
first week of February 2018, such as July 2018, is significantly
more than 12 months out.
You’ve selectively quoted Ran above. If you re-read his original
email, you’ll see that he said was that people *are* able to buy
flights to San Francisco now, indeed that he knows people who have.
The bit you have included above claims most airlines sell tickets *at
least* 12 months in advance.
I was simply providing a data point contrary to that, i.e. I’m not able
to source a ticket to SanFrancisco for July 2018 now, because the
airlines I’d likely look to first don’t see more than 11-12 months in
advance.
I know that passions run high on this set of issues, but can we
all please try to read each other's comments carefully enough to
avoid confusing the discussions by (I presume accidentally)
creating straw men and then attacking them?
I’m confused by your email John; all I was doing is giving a counter
point to Ran’s observation that people already have tickets to fly
in July 2018, but also that I agree that extending the IETF’s ability
to better support remote participation is now even more important.
Ran has since responded to both points politely and constructively.
Somewhat puzzled,
Tim
best,
john