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Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt> (IP Version 6 Addressing Architecture) to Internet Standard

2017-02-14 10:04:27
The problem we want it to be 64 bits except when it's not suppose to be,
such as RFC6164 for point-to-point and RFC6052 for IPv4/IPv6 translators
with /96 Network-Specific Prefix.

On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 9:53 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <
jordi(_dot_)palet(_at_)consulintel(_dot_)es> wrote:

Agree, we shouldn’t change that. Must be 64 bits.

Regards,
Jordi


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De: ietf <ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org> en nombre de David Farmer 
<farmer(_at_)umn(_dot_)edu

Responder a: <farmer(_at_)umn(_dot_)edu>
Fecha: martes, 14 de febrero de 2017, 16:27
Para: Brian E Carpenter <brian(_dot_)e(_dot_)carpenter(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com>
CC: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>, 
<6man-chairs(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>, 6man
WG <ipv6(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>, IETF-Discussion Discussion 
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Asunto: Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt> (IP Version 6
Addressing Architecture) to Internet Standard

    Actually, in addition to your text there still needs to be a
recommendation for 64 bit IIDs in all other cases.  64 bit IIDs are(and
should remain) the norm for IPv6, I do not want to change that.  But the
current language say IIDs are always 64 bit except when an address begins
with binary 000, leaving no room for any other exception.  And this is
plainly incorrect, I provided two clear exceptions that are already
standardized.  Furthermore, IIDs other than 64 bits are in operational use,
with manual configuration and DHCPv6.
    So I'd suggest;

    However, the Interface ID of unicast addresses used for
    Stateless Address Autoconfiguration [RFC4862] is required
    to be 64 bits long, in all other cases it is recommended to
    be 64 bits long.

    The other option is to enumerate all the exceptions, requiring the
document to be updated every time a new exception is standardized.

    On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Brian E Carpenter <
brian(_dot_)e(_dot_)carpenter(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com> wrote:

    At an earlier stage I suggested restricting the applicability
    of the "However..." sentence to SLAAC [RFC4862]. A short way
    of doing this would be

    However, the Interface ID of unicast addresses used for
    Stateless Address Autoconfiguration [RFC4862] is required
    to be 64 bits long.

    Regards
       Brian

    On 14/02/2017 11:32, David Farmer wrote:
    > I have concerns with the following text;
    >
    >    IPv6 unicast routing is based on prefixes of any valid length up
to
    >    128 [BCP198].  For example, [RFC6164] standardises 127 bit
prefixes
    >    on inter-router point-to-point links. However, the Interface ID of
    >    all unicast addresses, except those that start with the binary
value
    >    000, is required to be 64 bits long.  The rationale for the 64 bit
    >    boundary in IPv6 addresses can be found in [RFC7421]
    >
    > The third sentence seems to limit exceptions to 64 bit IIDs to
exclusively
    > addresses that start with binary vale of 000.  There are at least
two other
    > exceptions from standards track RFCs, that should be more clear
accounted
    > for in this text.  First is [RFC6164] point-to-point links, as
mentioned in
    > the previous sentence.  I think the clear intent of [RFC6164] is to
allow
    > one(1) Bit IIDs for point to point-to-point links using any Global
Unicast
    > Address, not just those that start with 000.  Second is, [RFC6052],
which
    > updates [RFC4921] and seems to allow 32 bit IIDs or /96 prefixes for
any
    > Global Unicast Address when used for IPv4/IPv6 translation, referred
to as
    > ""Network-Specific Prefix" unique to the organization deploying the
address
    > translators," in section 2.2 of [RFC6052].
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    > On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 5:51 PM, The IESG 
<iesg-secretary(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> The IESG has received a request from the IPv6 Maintenance WG (6man)
to
    >> consider the following document:
    >> - 'IP Version 6 Addressing Architecture'
    >>   <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-07.txt> as Internet Standard
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    >> Abstract
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    >>    This specification defines the addressing architecture of the IP
    >>    Version 6 (IPv6) protocol.  The document includes the IPv6
addressing
    >>    model, text representations of IPv6 addresses, definition of IPv6
    >>    unicast addresses, anycast addresses, and multicast addresses,
and an
    >>    IPv6 node's required addresses.
    >>
    >>    This document obsoletes RFC 4291, "IP Version 6 Addressing
    >>    Architecture".
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    >> The file can be obtained via
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