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Hello MHonArc and Mailman developers.
RFC 5064 describes the Archived-At header, which is used to point
directly to the archived version of a mailing list mail message. The
value of this header could also be used in a message body footer, such
as the type that Mailman typically adds to its list copy of the
message. Supporting this would be a big improvement in usability for
mailing lists and is an often requested feature of Mailman.
We have been having some off-list discussions recently between Jeff
Marshall and Jeff Breidenbach of the Mail-Archive.com, Earl Hood of
the MHonArc project and myself on approaches that would provide for
support of RFC 5064 Archived-At headers. The RFC itself is agnostic
on how to calculate the value of this header, but it does provide some
suggestions. On the mailman-developers mailing list a while ago we
discussed several ways of calculating this header, and in our private
discussions, we've refined our thoughts. We're now at something of an
impasse, where the specific approach requires us to make some trade-
offs between implementation choices and usability. It's now time to
get your feedback.
I've just updated the current proposal on the Mailman wiki:
http://wiki.list.org/x/yQAM
See specifically the Open Issues section. The most straight-forward
way to implement this leads to long, unusable (in our opinion) urls.
Shortening the urls would require quite a bit of additional
implementation complexity. What to do?
It's time to open this up to your ideas, but let me say that from
Mailman(3)'s perspective, the exact algorithm probably doesn't matter
much. I have a bzr branch that implements the interfaces and
infrastructure for archiver plugins, so if MHonArc, Pipermail, and
Mail-Archive.com all chose different algorithms, we can fairly easily
write a different plugin for each. Still, it would be good to
standardize on a usable, implementable approach.
I invite you to read the wiki page, and comment either there or as a
follow up to this message. I am not on the mhonarc-dev mailing list.
Cheers,
- -Barry
P.S. mhonarc-devs: I apologize in advance for the replybot on my email
address.
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