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Re: Another beginner Question - HTML formatted emails

2000-12-19 17:16:59
Hi,

I didn't understand some of that, but basically "yes" MHonArc handles
HTML formatted mail very well. I'm running the whole thing on Windows
NT, and also have a range of e-mail clients involved.

Outlook Express generates the most horrendous HTML, but I've never seen
MHonArc have a problem with it.

Regarding ideas for making custom archives and especially relating to
the Windows platform you may find it useful to check out some of my
earlier posts on the matter.

Ian Wilson wrote:

G'Day all,

Sorry for the long post but I do not want to trim too much...

I am trying to archive a mailing list - theer are about 500 users - all
will be Windows based since the mailing list is about a win-32 based
program.  There are a wide variety of mail clients but Eudora, Netscape and
the various MS clients are the most common.

Some people insist on sending formatted mail (not plain text). I have
requested otherwise but some like fancy formatted emails.

When I run mhonarc over my Eudora mailbox (.MBX file) I get  a number of
results from HTML formatted messages.

1) if the body of a message looks like (******* are delimiters in this
email only):
*****************************************
<x-html>
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">

<META content="MSHTML 5.00.2314.1000" name=GENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=&#26032;&#32048;&#26126;&#39636;><SPAN
class=240050401-30112000>Hi,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=&#26032;&#32048;&#26126;&#39636;><SPAN
class=240050401-30112000></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=&#26032;&#32048;&#26126;&#39636;><SPAN
class=240050401-30112000>As the PCB
file is opened, from the menu, select file&gt;&gt;save as(or save copy as),
and
then select PCB 3.0 Binary file, The PCB 3.0 format was used by Advanced
PCB V3,
Protel 98, Protel 99 and Protel99 SP1</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=#0000ff
face=&#26032;&#32048;&#26126;&#39636;><SPAN class=240050401-30112000>. I
guess the P99 which you said is
P99SE.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=&#26032;&#32048;&#26126;&#39636;><SPAN
class=240050401-30112000></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=&#26032;&#32048;&#26126;&#39636;><SPAN
class=240050401-30112000>BRs,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=&#26032;&#32048;&#26126;&#39636;><SPAN
class=240050401-30112000>Luo.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Newton Fukue
[mailto:nyu(_at_)ajato(_dot_)com(_dot_)br]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 
30, 2000 3:03
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Multiple recipients of list proteledausers<BR><B>Subject:</B>
  P99 to P98<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>How can I save the PCB file maked in P99 as a
file
for P98?</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

*****************************************

Then it comes through into the mhonarc generated HTML page with all the
HTML tags visible.

2) If, however, the message looks like:
*********************************************
<x-html>
<html>
Steve,<br>
<br>
On a very dense board, it is sometimes easier to see the available real
estate by suppressing the visual background noise.&nbsp; If you have just
the multilayer vias and pads turned on, along with the single layer upon
which you are working, the manual routing possibilities on that layer
become much clearer. <br>
<br>
The mode is available in Protel 98 from the tools/preferences/options
menu, and in Protel 99SE by using 'shift S'.<br>
<br>
Regards - Harry<br>
<br>
<br>
At 02:13 PM 12/14/00 -0500, you wrote:<br>
<font face="Times New Roman, Times" size=2>snip<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>I hate to sound too stupid, but
I've evidently missed something along the <br>
way, despite having done quite a few complex multilayer boards. What is
this <br>
&quot;single layer mode&quot;, and what does it do for you in manual
routing? I can <br>
stay on one layer just fine during manual routing with all the layers
<br>
enabled, so obviously I've misunderstood something in what you're
describing. <br>
When you get a few minutes, could you please educate me? <br>
<br>
</font><font face="arial">Steve Hendrix </font></blockquote></html>

</x-html>
*********************************************
the resulting messagexxxx.html file displays as just the last few lines as
shown here:

</x-html>

3) There are also some messages that have "<x-flowed>"  at the beginning of
the message and then "</x-flowed>" at the end of the message.  Doesn't seem
to cause any damage but .......

Is there a method to get HTML formatted messages to be interpreted
correctly?  I assume there is some sort of resource seting that will help me.

What I really want is a black-box that I can run every month and produce
another months archive.  I do not want to learn the guts of mhonarc if
possible.  I would love a resource file that did a reasonable job on
producing a thread index with a little fancier navigation than the basic
default format and a subject index - ideally both showing the dates of
messages if possible.  Has anyone got such a resource file that would be
willing to share on a no-responsibility basis.  (It would ideally cope with
mails from Windows-based clients complete with HTML formatted messages.  I
have another issue with people using the reply-to button to create new
thread which stuffs up mhonarcs threading somewhat but I gather this is
difficult to solve - incorrect in-reply-to field is difficult to cope 
with....)

I am sorry if it looks like I am not getting involved in the guts of this
powerful program but I am spread rather thinly as it is and I simply do not
have the time to invest in mhonarc.

Thanks very much,

Ian Wilson

-- 
Gerry Hickman (London UK)

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