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Re: FYI

1994-02-22 17:39:00
On Tue, 22 Feb 1994, John Lowry wrote:

Then there is no problem.  Make RIPEM an RFC and use it.  Just because there
is something PEM-like that is more popular than PEM doesn't mean that PEM is
broken.  It isn't a matter of purity either.  RIPEM is RIPEM and makes no 
bones
about it.  PEM is PEM and offers a set of services which RIPEM doesn't (and 
which

Since RIPEM is so popular, all "pure" PEM implementations will need to 
support it for backwards compatibility.  It would be a lot easier if 
RIPEM's methods were incorporated into PEM so that future PEM authors 
knew exactly what they needed to implement to be PEM-compliant and also 
work with all existing implementations.

the RIPEM documentation admits).  If popularity were the standard then we 
would
all be using VMS or DOS or something.  :-)

Ah, but in their own subset of the computer industry, VMS and DOS _are_ 
standards. :-)

Your argument is similar to one which
states that because Xmodem gets the job done and is so popular that
obviously there is no need for TCP/IP.

Xmodem doesn't make any assertions about trying to be TCP/IP-like, but 
RIPEM does make assertions about trying to be as compatible with PEM as 
feasible.  No TCP/IP implementor in his right mind would think that 
Xmodem needs to be implemented as well, but a PEM implementor needs to 
seriously consider RIPEM compatibility or lose a substantial section of 
the market.  Rather than have two competing PEM "things", let's just have 
one.

I wonder what will happen when the PGP guys eventually come to the table 
to create a merged standard that keeps both camps happy?  Will they be 
told to get lost because they aren't "pure"?  Frankly, this elitist 
X.500-and-top-down-CA's-or-die attitude is starting to wear a bit thin 
with me.

Cheers,

Rhys.



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