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Re: Is PGP really more widespread than PEM?

1994-12-13 15:40:00
Where is this invisible market??  I don't consider newsgroups & mailing
lists a widespread market and IETF pgp signing sessions are hardly the
way I expect to see internet commerce to evolve.  In my user
community (a company), I have a harder time selling PGP than I do with
PEM.

Where are any businesses on the Internet?  Where is this so-called
PEM-using market?  If I had two products and I prefered one over the
other, it would be very easy for me to sell that one over the other.
Have you ever had a PGP-enthusiast stand next to you in front of the
people to whom you "have a harder time selling PGP" and debate the
issues?

Show me a company that wants to do business on the Internet, even one
that you say will buy into PEM, and I can set them up to use PGP as
the client authentication system within a week, probably sooner!
(This is assuming that they have all the hardware/software
infrastructure to run PGP and maintain client records already in
place.  E.g., they already have computers installed).

I can do this *today*.  In fact, I can even describe how I'd do it,
too!  No CA's are required.  Clients can maintain some level on
anonymity (although they do at some point need to provide a credit
card, but only once, to the company) and the company can verify the
orders.

PGP has a much wider distribution than PEM.  I see PGP messages
(signed and/or encrypted) every day.  I rarely, maybe once every 2
weeks, see a PEM-encoded message.  Just look at OSI, the "approved
networking standard" -- See how many OSI implementation exist, and how
many are actually in deployment?  Now compare that to TCP/IP.  I'm
sorry, but installation base is a big factor in marketeering.

Go try to market a 175V, 50Hz appliance in the US and see how much
response you get from consumers. ;-)

-derek

         Derek Atkins, SB '93 MIT EE, G MIT Media Laboratory
       Member, MIT Student Information Processing Board (SIPB)
    Home page: http://www.mit.edu:8001/people/warlord/home_page.html
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