Gerald, Google,
Thank you for the tips.
Fundamentally, I only want one account to get mails from the Dovecot IMAP
server that I already use here.
The problem lies in the mail clients (Mozilla). In order to use several
diffent sender addresses, I am forced to use different users (Mozilla won't
let an IMAP account have more that 1 sender address and also forbids more
that 1 account with the same login - unless anyone knows different ?). This
is why I ended up here, needing as many logins on the Linux box as there are
mail accounts, although they won't be used.
No one will ever log in to the Linux box (it functions as various servers,
but has no user interaction), except root to administer etc., that leads me
to believe that a local users '~/.procmailrc' won't be run, which is why I
only have a '/etc/procmailrc'.
Maybe this is where my understanding is not correct. I have read for hours,
but can't find an explanation of the logic of the whole Mail system (which
programme is called by which other, when and with which user rights), so I
can see what's happening.
I would like a single, 'universal' E-Mail client connection e.g. 'postbote'
that will always be used everywhere, but with several, selectable, 'sender'
addresses. Mails that are replies to accounts where dubious replies are
expected should be separated (e.g. a subfolder) so that it is clear which
E-Mail account belongs here. Again the mail clients force an Inbox and Sent
Mail folder for each account created for sending, thus it seems logical to
use them as the visual connection is then good. I name each account as the
sender address and even my wife can understand it.
Maybe your single-user scheme, Gerald, would go some way to addressing my
problem ?
Sorry to write so much, but I needed to explain why I ended up breaking the
rule that Google so rightly pointed out.
Many thanks,
Robert von Knobloch.
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Von: procmail-bounces(_at_)lists(_dot_)RWTH-Aachen(_dot_)DE
[mailto:procmail-bounces(_at_)lists(_dot_)RWTH-Aachen(_dot_)DE]Im Auftrag von
Gerald V.
Livingston II
Gesendet: Freitag, 5. November 2004 22:54
An: Procmail (E-Mail)
Betreff: [OT] Re: Writing to users mailboxes
Excuse the top post. Easier to explain in a clean top paragraph or two than
intersperse this one.
Quit trying to fix the problem with Procmail. Use fetchmail and your MTA
the way they were intended.
Assuming you have two log in accounts on your system -- "robert" and
"sabine" -- if you don't, please reply and I'll re-explain for multiple
users of a single login.
/etc/fetchmailrc <-- run as root through cron
#these mails will all be delivered to user "sabine" by the local MTA/LDA
poll some.remote.server with proto POP3
user sabine there with password xxxx is sabine here
user sabine.procmail with password xxxx is sabine here
user spambox there with password xxxxx is sabine here
poll other.remote.server with proto POP3
user sabine there with password xxxx is sabine here
user maybespam with password xxxx there is sabine here
#these will be delivered to "robert here"
poll some.remote.server with proto POP3
user robert there with password xxxx is robert here
user robert.procmail with password xxxx is robert here
user robert.spam there with password xxxxx is robert here
poll other.remote.server with proto POP3
user robert there with password xxxx is robert here
user maybespam.robert with password xxxx there is robert here
Then, in your ~/.procmailrc for "sabine" simply use:
#NOTE: I am assuming Courier IMAP folder formats (using . before folder
# names)
MAILDIR=/var/home/sabine/Mailer/
:0
* ^To(_dot_)*sabine(_at_)some(_dot_)remote(_dot_)server
.sabineserver1/
#Will deliver in MailDir format to
/var/home/sabine/Mailer/.sabineserver1/new
:0
* ^To(_dot_)*spambox(_at_)some(_dot_)remote(_dot_)server
.spamboxserver1/
#to /var/home/sabine/Mailer/.spamboxserver1/new
:0
* ^To(_dot_)*maybespam(_at_)other(_dot_)remote(_dot_)server
.maybespamserver2/
#to /var/home/sabine/Mailer/.maybespamserver2/new
Repeat for the ~/.procmailrc for "robert"
Make sure you have a sane default for those messages that may be missed due
to being Bcc:'d etc. The MTA on the remote servers may add an "X-RCPT-TO:"
header that you can use to filter the Bcc:'s into the proper boxes relating
to the original address they were retrieved from.
I retrieve about 20 different addresses into a single account this way and
use a custom MUA setup combined with SMTP Authentication to ensure my
replies are posted with the correct From and Sender headers.
Stop trying to use fetchmail to retrieve all messages to a single local
user account when you want the mail stored to multiple accounts. Retrieve
using the correct "here" account for the remote accounts.
Gerald
On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 21:23:44 +0100 Robert & Sabine von Knobloch
<von(_dot_)knobloch(_at_)t-online(_dot_)de> wrote:
Dear Procmailers,
I am trying to sort incoming mail according to the TO field. I have a
central IMAP server and use fetchmail to get all mails from several
accounts
because we (I and my wife) use different accounts depending on how
suspicious we are that we will be spammed.
All received mails come into the server and are then sorted with procmail
into categories, according to various criteria and delivered to Maildir
mailboxes, all this is working.
I tried a recipe to select mails to a different account so that it would
be
delivered to the inbox of a different user (all mail is fetched by a
Linux
account 'postbote' for this purpose).
[...]
It is clear that it is a permissions problem. What I can't seem to find
is
enough information about how the permissions work in Procmail and how a
user
identity is determined. I have tried giving group permissions in sabine's
Maildir to postbote, but it didn't make any difference.
Can anyone point me in the right direction please ?
Many thanks,
Robert von Knobloch
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