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RE: The New SPF: overall outline

2004-05-21 00:44:40
Its good that SPF is NOT stored at the _SPF subdomain. 
There are lots of hosted DNS outside and they dont support subdomains.
For example I was only able to publish the SPF but NOT able to publish
the CID record for that reason.....



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Subject: Re: [spf-discuss] The New SPF: overall outline


On Fri, 21 May 2004, Roger Moser wrote:

Michael r. Brumm wrote:

There are good reasons that SPF, Caller-ID, and DomainKeys ALL 
currently use TXT records.

But Caller-ID and DomainKeys store the TXT record at the 
subdomain _ep 
and _domainkeys respectively. Whereas the SPF record is mixed with 
other TXT records.

What was to reason to not store the SPF record at the _spf 
subdomain?

I don't know original reason, but benefit that comes out 
putting record directly at domain level is ability to setup 
wildcard records that apply to all subdomains as well. But 
this comes out of price that we overload TXT record that may 
possibly be used for some other reason then SPF (in fact 
multiple TXT records maybe received so DNS response may 
exceed 512 bytes even if each SPF record was quite small). 
That is why it would be better to use seprately assigned dns 
type (which Microsoft is opposed because windows can't be 
quickly upgraded to support it).

The benefit that comes out of putting record in the specially 
named subdomain is that we know for certain such subdomain 
TXT record would be for SPF use. But this comes out of price 
that wildcards can not ever be supported (which has already 
been seen as a problem with SRV records which used this 
approach and now number of usefull things that could be done 
with them is not possible).

My personal opinion is that we need separate types assigned 
for SPFID and one for Domainkeys (more general type to be 
used to store certificates). 
With domainkeys I'll be in contact with Yahoo to see if they 
agree to support applying for new record type - but it can be 
noted that for domainkeys its less of a problem since 
wildcards are not needed for their records since exact 
certificate location is specified in the header.

--
William Leibzon
Elan Networks
william(_at_)elan(_dot_)net

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