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Re: ENVID to prevent forged bounces with SUBMITTER?

2004-06-05 11:11:11
Stuart D. Gathman wrote:

  An excellent idea.  I would much rather see the RFCs modified to
  require ENVID passed back on RCPT than adding SUBMITTER.

The MTA at orig.com can now use the "Original-Envelope-ID:" to
determine whether the bounce is valid. Ideally, the ENVID would get
passed back on the DSN's RCPT command, but alas it does not. I
suppose if we are adding SUBMITTER to MAIL FROM, we could add ENVID
parameter to RCPT, like this:

EHLO third.com
MAIL FROM: <>
RCPT TO: <ann(_at_)orig(_dot_)com> ENVID=yf09+Cw

If the orig.com has to go to DATA phase to get the
Original-Envelope-ID, then I hate the scheme.  But if ENVID were to
appear on RCPT TO, then that would make SES so much more attractive
for preventing forged bounces.

I concur. Unfortunately, if we have to change the SMTP protocol to
accomplish this, then we're exactly where we're at having to introduce
RFROM.

- Mark

        System Administrator Asarian-host.org

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