Excuse Me,
I am just a small web hosting company admin, trying to navigate the
waters of SPF/Caller BC.
This forum sometimes gets so far from what it is *supposed*(SPF tech
issues and Devlopmeent, I hope) to be, that one really must consider if
there is any reason to be here.
Meng did what the spf-base appeared to want - Discuss with Redmont, WA a
common ground for pushing SPF into the mainstream. That has been done,
Micro$oft got trounced by the IETF, and now get back to business. IE,
stop bickering, ram the SPF records into the body public, and let's make
this crap stop - Email Activity (Since 9/01/2004) SPAM 498465 Msgs,
VIRUS 26349 Msgs and this is just based on what makes it to my
pop3/imap/smtp server, thru to relay servers.
Steve Foster
BBS-LA
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From: owner-spf-discuss(_at_)v2(_dot_)listbox(_dot_)com
[mailto:owner-spf-discuss(_at_)v2(_dot_)listbox(_dot_)com] On Behalf Of David
Woodhouse
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 7:13 AM
To: spf-discuss(_at_)v2(_dot_)listbox(_dot_)com
Subject: Re: [spf-discuss] SUGGESTION: No more ad-hominem attacks.
On Wed, 2004-10-27 at 10:42 -0700, Jonathan Gardner wrote:
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Ad hominem attacks are attacks directed at a person's character.
Not quite. Ad Hominem is a very specific term used to describe a logical
fallacy; an attack against a person's character may not be an Ad
Hominem, and an Ad Hominem may not be based upon a person's character,
but rather their circumstances or actions.
A response in an argument may be insulting without being an Ad Hominem.
An example of this may be "If you think that, then you're evidently
smoking crack". That's _not_ an Ad Hominem. This kind of thing is
usually accompanied by at least some form of answer to the technical
argument which was being made.
And Ad Hominem makes an attack against the person, and then attempts to
use that attack as evidence that the victim's original argument is
false. An example of this would be "You smoke crack, therefore your
argument cannot be valid and I won't even bother to answer your
technical points".
You don't actually see much Ad Hominem. You do see a lot of insulting
behaviour though.
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dwmw2
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