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Re: SPF receivers are weak link

2005-08-26 08:50:57

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stuart D. Gathman" <stuart(_at_)bmsi(_dot_)com>


And then there was the Hector incident.  No wonder senders 
are reluctant to publish -all!  

If you really thing the reason there is market reluctance to publish -ALL 
because of the "hector incident" or incidents like it, then SPF is in trouble.  

The two have no correlation whatsoever.  People are not publishing -ALL simply 
because they can't.

We had a mite in the NEUTRAL implementation.  It was a short circuit bug for 
NEUTRAL results.  No attempts was made to by-pass the specs. That's it. The 
system has been in place for nearly 2 years on thousands of systems and we have 
only 2 bug reports, including this one.   Are you saying you never had bugs in 
your software?

Just consider that a NEUTRAL for our default setup is basically viewed as a 
indeterminate result.  It means NOTHING.  It means we are going to test using 
other ideas in place.

Given the fact that we consistently see over 44% of SPF NEUTRAL results where 
over 2/3 of these are REJECTED due to CBV,  the WEAK LINK is in RELAXED SPF 
PROVISIONS which has been stated over and over and over again since day one.

The fact that SPF suffers from a FORWARDING solution is the reason it is a WEAK 
LINK because this is what's promotes NEUTRAL policies.

The WEAK LINK was the original WEB SITE PROMOTION of SPF for all vendors to 
publish a WEAK, USELESS NEUTRAL POLICY with no TIME EXPIRATION policy concept 
whatsoever that I proposed over and over again.

No, the weak link isn't the "Hector Incident." so please don't try to solve SPF 
acceptance issues on us.

If you want to address SPF problems, address the NEUTRAL issue because as is, 
SPF has done nothing more than try to close an SMTP loophole by OPENING another.

That's the weak links here.

For all the support I have given SPF, the time and effort to help improve it, 
the promotion with commercial product and customers,  I don't appreciate this 
slap in the face of trying to pin SPF WOES on me.

That's ashamed because I thought you were a lot smarter than this.

Ciao

-- 
Hector Santos, Santronics Software, Inc.
http://www.santronics.com