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Re: Sorting Upper-Case first. Microsoft bug?

2003-08-06 20:43:39
Hi Stan,
  in real world XML files, variety of data is possible
*with liklyhood of numbers also existing along with
alphabets*, so i think popular XSLT processors have to
implement with some way of providing sorted order to
such data. i feel that is why, true lexicographic
meaning is not possible with XSLT processors ..

Regards,
Mukul

--- Stan Devitt <jsdevitt(_at_)stratumtek(_dot_)com> wrote:
Markus,

Actually,   I don't think we are that far apart.   I
strongly agree with 
you that the kind sort you mention is very
important. I was definitely 
not suggesting it be removed and I don't really care
what the various 
sorts are called.  (Also, I'm only guessing that
true lexicographic 
really was meant in the first place ...)

My biggest concern was over the "technical"
contradiction between the 
REC and the implementations and the evident
difficulty in reaching a 
concensus on that fact.

I was also somewhat surprised that people did not
seem to have noticed  
that  an implementor COULD have  remained
technically true to the 
lexicographic reference in the spec. and also
addressed many  (50% ?,  
80%?,  more? )  cultural differences also as
directed by the REC.  The 
fact that multiple implementors chose to sacrifice
the technical meaning 
of  lexicographic to further the cultural directive
just lends weight to 
your argument of how important  the other kind sort
is and I'm not 
disagreeing with their decision.

Bottom line:   People should not be this confused by
the REC. A REC of 
this sort should definitely not
use a technical word like lexicographic in a
non-technical sense.  
Either it did, or there is a contradiction.

We may still disagree on the importance of a true
lexicographic sort, 
but we can debate that elsewhere.
Myself, I find it much more useful for my kind of
data . :)

Stan Devitt

 




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