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RE: XML to Database Inserts via XSLT

2005-03-09 15:40:05

Is there a place where I can read more about this particular 
extension 

http://www.saxonica.com/documentation/sql-extension/intro.html

and/or extensibility of the processor in general?

http://www.saxonica.com/documentation/extensibility/intro.html


But I was thinking that perhaps placing a 'temporary 
hierarchy' (which 
I guess would be somewhat like a 'view'), over the relational 
structure of the database, would allow the database to look like
an XML/hierarchical structure?

This is akin to what some of the XQuery/relational vendors are doing: except
that they push as much of the query to the database as possible, to make
maximum use of indexes. 

In principle you could implement the XPath data model directly as a view of
the database, but relational databases are much happier doing a small number
of large queries rather than millions of small ones. (If only we still had
Codasyl databases...) Saxon's NodeInfo interface is actually slightly higher
level than the XPath data model as described in the specs (because it
supports navigation using the XPath axes) but a direct mapping of this
interface onto SQL would still be a rather significant challenge, and
wouldn't give as good performance as systems that translate whole FLWR
expressions into SQL.

Michael Kay
http://www.saxonica.com/


I guess the idea would be to:
a) somehow define the way that the relationships between
  the existing entities in the database will collapse into
  a tree structure for an application of an XSLt stylesheet.
b) apply the stylesheet to the database... much like
  applying it to an XML document... only with the xpath
  expressions being evaluated by calls to the temporary
  tree structure in the database.

I'm not sure if this makes much sense... I do know that
I've never had an easier time programming a web application
than when I was able to apply a stylesheet directly to
a database (in this case, the aforementioned libxml document
residing in memory on an RPC server) without any sort of
database lookups getting in the way.... so I'd be interested 
in any ideas people have about how I could do such a thing
with a large relational database.

I looked at sleepycat and a couple other "XML native" 
databases... but from what I could tell, they all pulled
the XML document into memory in order to apply a stylesheet
to it.  For a 20MB database, perhaps that's not a problem,
but for a 20GB database, it definitely is.  It's possible
my research was incomplete, but I did look for quite a
while over the course of a couple months.

I hope this question is reasonably clear, but it seems like
a pretty complex and abstract subject.  I'd be glad
to flesh out any comments that I can...

-Brian

Note:
(Originally, in a design attempt, I was picking one object
and exporting a hierarchy of objects linked to that
object recursively... and then applying a stylesheet to
that... but this wasn't even close to what I actually 
wanted)

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