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Re: How the IPnG effort was started

2004-11-20 10:32:16
Thus spake "Kai Henningsen" <kaih(_at_)khms(_dot_)westfalen(_dot_)de>
michel(_at_)arneill-py(_dot_)sacramento(_dot_)ca(_dot_)us (Michel Py) wrote on 16.11.04 in <DD7FE473A8C3C245ADA2A2FE1709D90B0DB487(_at_)server2003(_dot_)arneill-py(_dot_)sacramento(_dot_)ca(_dot_)us>:
I think you missed the point. As of today, IPv6 is in the same situation
ISDN has always been:

I Still Don't Need.
^ ^     ^     ^

Whereas I have used ISDN for over a decade now, and so have enough Germans
that it's been very many years that pretty much every BBS switched to
support ISDN.

State-supported monopolies have an advantage in rolling out technologies widely before there's enough demand to justify them, solving the chicken-and-egg problem. We choose to put the cost of new technology where (in our opinion) it belongs: on the people that are using it. Different deployment rates (and subsidy rates) result which are appropriate for each culture.

I hear you still use 56k Modems in the US. When people switched to ISDN
64k over here, "fast" typically was 14.4k. It's been quite a while since I
last used a modem ... 80's tech.

ISDN which 10 years ago was supposed to be the digital miracle that
would save us from the analog crap and take over the world

... well, over here that is pretty much exactly what happened ...

And most parts of the world still don't have analog phone lines, much less ISDN or broadband. 9600bps modems are still futuristic technology in those places.

Over here, a standard ISDN line (two channels, three numbers) costs pretty
much exactly the same as two analog lines (two channels, two numbers), and
always has.

Makes for a slightly different cost equation.

Whereas here an ISDN line still costs at least twice as much as two analog lines, plus often carries per-minute tolls even for local calls which are toll-free with analog.

the majority of phones and dial-up still are analog and now ISDN
costs _more_ than DSL or cable for low-end data.

That's just ridiculous.

But that's the situation in the US... DSL/Cable are significantly cheaper and faster than ISDN, often by a factor of 10x or more per kbps.

S

Stephen Sprunk         "God does not play dice."  --Albert Einstein
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