On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 11:56 -0400, Terry Fielder wrote:
No. Again you miss the point. The forwarding sites have nothing to do
with _either_ the sending or receiving domains.
Wrong. The forwarding site has EVERYTHING to do with the ORIGINAL
receiving domain. And that's where the relationship exists, because the
original receiving domain has a relationship with the final receiving
domain. User of the original receiving domain is using the forwarder to
define the relationship to his final receiving domain.
Let's avoid using duplicate terms. Obviously the forwarding site _is_
the 'original receiving domain'. So what you're saying would be...
The forwarding site has EVERYTHING to do with the forwarding site.
And that's where the relationship exists, because the
forwarding site has a relationship with the final receiving
domain. User of the forwarding site is using the forwarder to
define the relationship to his final receiving domain.
So the relationship to which you point is that one of the millions of
users of the forwarding site is also one of the millions of users of the
receiving domain.
And by that logic you are my cousin, are you not?
I was looking for a more useful and practical relationship.
Nor does the admin at [the receiving site] need to know. The
[forwarding site], and needs to ensure the forwarder forwards without forgery
I see no RFC definition of this 'forgery' of which you speak, and of
which Alex raves so hotly. It's purely an invention, to work around the
brokenness of SPF.
What if I were suddenly to claim that my name may not be used in the
From: header of mail coming from anywhere but my own servers, and I
cried that the mailing list's use of my name was 'forgery'?
Surely you would all just laugh at me? Why then do you expect your own
cries of 'forgery' to be taken seriously by all forwarding hosts in the
world?
This 'forgery' of which you speak is normal behaviour and has been for
years. By expecting it to change you are tilting at windmills. Using
emotive words to describe standard behaviour doesn't change that fact.
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