On Tue, 12 Jul 2005, Frank Ellermann wrote:
Furthermore, /private/ council business /by definition/ is
not supposed to "reflect" the will of the community.
Exactly. But the abuse of v=spf1 by PRA is no private business
of Council members, it didn't show up on the SPF Council agenda
by some accident, it's the main reason why the Council exists:
I agree. This is a very important topic. We really need to be informed
You are NOT authorized to do whatever you "think" is the best.
You're supposed to reflect the will of the Community in PUBLIC.
We're talking about Redmond trying to get a hold on some multi-
billion dollar mail business, a TRUST US for something I don't
see does not enter the picture. I only trust that Redmond will
try anything on both borders of legality to get what they want.
Redmond abuse a lot. They take most things and then claim they invented
it. They really have not had many new ideas. They raid other companies
and take all they want and then discard them.
Sometimes private discussions are necessary within a
committee in order to gain access to information which is
guaranteed not to be available publicly.
That's not the case for SPF, any "unavailable info" can be only
a trick by the enemies of SPF, or maybe a stupid power trip of
Council members. The SPF project does not have any "secrets" -
the Community just seletcted the name OPENspf for the Web site.
The only case I can see for private discussions is for attempts to get
funding. I do understand that some things might for inteligence purposes
not be disclosed imediately, but should be disclosed. I do not remember
the final post disclosing what the special work group did. That was
mentioned in the logs in Dec, Jan, and Feb. I may have missed it but I
really do not see the post.
It's exactly the same problem as after the demise of MARID with
a "private" list: It's a delaying game, and a trick to divide
and conquer. This BLACKOUT was an attack on SPF, and even Doug
or Mr. Hardie would be hard pressed to propose something worse.
I agree. This seems like the same old Redmond delaying game.
Please be open with what the council is doing. If there is really some
strategic reason, I may be able to accept some delay, but all too often it
seems that it is never made public.
Boyd Gerber <gerberb(_at_)zenez(_dot_)com>
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