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Re: Microsoft Patent - Re: New Internet Draft: draft-duerst-archived-at-00.txt

2004-03-11 10:37:02

My memory is a bit fuzzy on this, but I seem to remember at least one,
likely more systems in the early 90's that did this.   Lotus cc:Mail, Notes,
and possibly a system by Oracle of the time.   Unfortunately it has been too
long to remember details, but perhaps someone who was internal to these
organizations may be able to shed a bit more light on the subject.

Best Regards,

-- Tim


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nathaniel Borenstein" <nsb(_at_)guppylake(_dot_)com>
To: "Hector Santos" <winserver(_dot_)support(_at_)winserver(_dot_)com>
Cc: "Martin Duerst" <duerst(_at_)w3(_dot_)org>; <ietf-822(_at_)imc(_dot_)org>
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 11:24 PM
Subject: Re: Microsoft Patent - Re: New Internet Draft:
draft-duerst-archived-at-00.txt



Actually, if all the claims follow the abstract and refer to
"electronic messaging" rather than email, then I would think netnews
*itself* is prior art that should be reasonably easy to document!  -- 
NB

On Mar 10, 2004, at 10:00 AM, Hector Santos wrote:


Martin,   I think Microsoft just patent this.

Ridiculous!


United States Patent 6,704,772
Ahmed ,   et al. March 9, 2004

Thread based email

Abstract

Systems and methods for providing electronic messaging services to
multiple
users by storing a single copy of an electronic message at a central
location and notifying recipients of the stored single copy. An
electronic
message includes a distribution list and a message content. A
distribution
list identifying multiple recipients causes prior art systems to
duplicate
the entire message for each recipient, placing potentially large
demands on
both processing power and storage space. In contrast, the systems and
methods disclosed herein store a single copy or a limited number of
copies
of an electronic message addressed to multiple recipients and provide
each
recipient with a relatively small notification. In addition to
providing
information regarding content and origin, the notification also
provides
access to the stored message. Furthermore, the methods and systems
also aid
in organizing replies to electronic messages. Replies are associated
with an
initial message through a message identifier. The association helps to
organize electronic messages by subject and provides context without
requiring an author to duplicate the content of the initial message
with the
reply.

Inventors: Ahmed; Muhammad A. (Seattle, WA); Alam; Mohammad Shabbir
(Bellevue, WA)
Assignee: Microsoft Corporation (Redmond, WA)
Appl. No.: 399417
Filed: September 20, 1999


PS:  I don't know about others but this was already prior art on our
product
where we used email distribution into a single mssage folder for
multiple
user participation.  This is used everyday for our technical support
staff
as one example.   Nothing elegant about this.  A EMAIL <---> NEWS
interface!


-- 
Hector Santos, Santronics Software, Inc.
http://www.santronics.com




----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Duerst" <duerst(_at_)w3(_dot_)org>
To: <ietf-822(_at_)imc(_dot_)org>
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 4:13 PM
Subject: New Internet Draft: draft-duerst-archived-at-00.txt



Dear email specialists,

I have recently submitted a proposal for a new email header,
the Archived-At header. You can find it at
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-duerst-archived-at-00.txt

It defines a new email header, Archived-At:, to provide a direct
link to the archived form of an individual mail message. We use
this extremely successfully (currently in the form X-Archived-At)
at W3C.

I would highly appreciate any feedback and comments on this proposal.
Please make sure you copy me, as I'm not subscribed to this list.


Regards,    Martin.