Charles Lindsey wrote:
In <4159F9EC(_dot_)3020603(_at_)erols(_dot_)com> Bruce Lilly
<blilly(_at_)erols(_dot_)com> writes:
Charles Lindsey wrote:
The only place where it is known that a crosspost is occurring is at the
original sender.
Not true, on at least two counts:
1. an author might not know that a particular mailbox expands to a list.
Sure, the author might not know [...]
So you agree that your original statement was untrue.
But for sure if the author is not aware of it, then agents further
down the chain will be even less aware of it.
That's obviously wrong; clearly a downstream list expander (or
its maintainer) is aware that list expansion is taking place.
Hence the original sender is that latest point
Still drawing bad conclusion from false premises, I see.
Unless, of course, you have a better solution to propose.
Prior to a "solution", one needs to identify a real "problem".
You haven't done so; you've simply made some false assertions
and have drawn wrong conclusions -- that itself is o "solution".
2. In the case of a mailing list expander where one of the expansion
mailboxes is a list submission mailbox, the maintainer of the
first list expander might indeed know that another list is being fed.
In that case, the first list expander is in the position of the author
Emphatically no. An author and a list expander are two distinct
entities which perform very different functions.
Bad conclusion based on a false premise.
And you have a better solution?
"Solution" to what? To your predilection for making false
statements, then drawing bogus conclusions from them? You'll
have to solve that for yourself. I suggest thinking before
writing.
Which proposal? I haven't seen one that states that MFT "indicates that
a crosspost is occurring".
It can be arranged that MFT includes all the crossposted lists, which will
at least get replies sent to all the lists. If the MFT can also indicate
which of its addresses were lists, that would be even better.
It appears that MFT proponents cannot agree what it is supposed
to do; you claim that it "includes all the crossposted lists",
Bernstein claims that it requests that an "address be excluded from"
some response, others claim that it indicates either addresses or
mailboxes (they can't agree on which) for some sort of response.
That latter seems closest to the way it is used, in those rare
cases when some minor UA that supports it it used, i.e. as a
non-standard equivalent of Reply-To.