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Re: non-member messages to lists (was Re: reply etiquette)

2004-10-12 18:29:12

Laird Breyer wrote:
On Oct 11 2004, Bruce Lilly wrote:

I do accept that the possibility is there, but am yet to be convinced that
it happens so frequently to render inadequate the default behaviour of 
sending list responses to the address that was subscribed.

What exactly is that supposed to mean? Responses go wherever the
respondent sends them.


Whatever you meant it to mean. I responded to the following quote from you:


An author might very well change his recommendation for responses
on a per-message basis.  


I responded that's a possibility, but by far in most cases an author
wants responses sent to him via the mailing list, not directly, so that
ought to be default behaviour for this kind of advanced mailing list server. 

That makes little sense; a person subscribes to a mailing list
specifying his email address as "the address that was subscribed".
If he posts a message to that list and some reader responds "to
the address that was subscribed" (however he is supposed to be able
to determine that -- it might not be the mailbox in the author's
From field), that response goes solely to that address and the
list is not involved in any capacity -- either in the transmission
of the message from respondent to the author or in expanding that
response to the list (since the response isn't sent to the list
mailbox).  If a respondent sends his response to the list mailbox,
it is expanded to the list, including "the address that was subscribed";
that's what a list expander does, and "default behaviour" doesn't
enter into the matter.  That happens regardless of and independently
of whether or not the author in question provided any recommendation
for where responses should be sent.

I was thinking of Mutt's list-reply command. From the manual:
[...]

That involves configuration, and any "list" involved is either some
preconfigured static mailbox or is derived (with some additional
configuration) from the content of some non-standard field set by
somebody else (or by his UA following some extensive configuration
on his end).  There is no guarantee that that mailbox is a list at
all; a preconfigured mailbox won't be able to handle a message sent
to multiple lists, author recommendations, etc.

Fine, but that affects what he receives from the list, not what he
sends to wherever he sends it to.  In particular, it does nothing
to address communicating his recommendations for responses to messages
that he authors.


That was my intention with the 'intelligent server" all along, but it 
appears I failed to communicate that. 

Sounds like what you're looking for is an ESP-based server...


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