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Re: [Asrg] a "baby steps" proposal.

2003-03-25 06:50:22
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 11:31:39PM -0800, Chuq Von Rospach allegedly wrote:

As the site trying to decide on accepting, you can query that server 
two questions: is "fluxmonger(_at_)yahoo(_dot_)com" authorized to send e-mail 
from 
your domain? and "is this IP address authorized to send e-mail for your 
domain"?

risks/issues:

any server that does a yes/no on "is this a good address" risks leaking 
those good addresses to spammers.

eRBL is a variant on this that I've discussed in other forums. The
idea is to reverse the question to be "is this a known bad address".

As the owner of the domain, you get to know about bad addresses
because you get the bounces. In effect, hostauth becomes a cache of
recent bounces to bogus addresses, for some value of recent.

The advantage of this approach is that it doesn't leak addresses and
cannot be used to list-wash.

Using your example, if someone is trying to send mail using
bin(_at_)plaidworks(_dot_)com, in very short order you'll start getting bounces
to that address because spammer lists are rarely perfect. As soon as
you get the bounce and the local delivery/forward fails, the address
gets added into your eRBL.

A query for any other email address returns NXDOMAIN regardless of
whether it's valid or not.


Regards.

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