Unfortunately Vernon keeps calling me a liar, I am not.
It is much easier to ask people not to engage in flamewars
when they are not the party being libelled. Note that I have
made no comments about Vernon except to ask if he is a
member of the cabal he spends so much time defending and
to point out that his ad-hominem attacks are unhelpful.
SPEWS really did blacklist us and the entire net that we
are on. SPEWS states that it is their policy to blacklist
all of an ISPs customers if they do not respond.
It is not 'obvious' that they do not do what their web site
says they do - blacklist innocent customers of an ISP they
dislike in an attempt to gain leverage against the ISP.
Nor is it obvious that a blacklist could not be out of
control:
http://archive.salon.com/tech/feature/2001/06/08/orbs/
"MAPS also had a run-in with ORBS. In 1999, MAPS listed ORBS on its Realtime
Blackhole List, in response to several complaints about the way that ORBS
was supposedly abusing networks. The group removed ORBS and stopped blocking
it from its own servers three months later, but not before ORBS threw MAPS
into its own black hole. Even Suespammers.org found itself blocked over a
dispute with ORBS. Until the day the list died, spam fighters who used
Brown's list couldn't access the Suespammers site, a major resource that
might have helped them in their war on unsolicited e-mail. "
http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin/2000-07/msg01235.html
http://news.com.com/2100-1023-218552.html?legacy=cnet
Unless Vernon posts a denial that he is a member of the
spews cabal I will conclude that Vernon is a member and
direct any process the lawyers may want to serve in his
direction if the spews cabal takes similar action in future.
Phill
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