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RE: [Asrg] Community proposal alert...Vendor Proposes Open E-mail Standards To Fight Spam

2003-05-05 06:37:36
At 4:49 PM -0400 5/3/03, Eric D. Williams wrote:
Is opt-out a viable concept?

Before we get too far down this, let's have some definitions.

What do you mean by "opt-out"? In particular, where did the company get your email address from in the first place?

- bought it
- they got mail from someone with your from address
- someone entered it on their web site
- got it offline from someone claiming to be you

Which of those are opt-out?  And what are the others?

Yes, there's a negative slant to my examples. I've received unsolicited email from people claiming all of the above (except perhaps the last one).

BTW, I think that transactional messages are all explicit opt-in messages (this
I derive from anecdotal experience with eCommerce purchasing, e.g. send
confirmation in e-mail, reading the consent agreement at transaction completion

I'm not sure what you mean by this. But if you mean that transactional email always uses confirmations, that is definitely not true. As a case in point, if anyone wants a rental car in their name, just let me know. wormalert(_at_)somewhere(_dot_)com gets several Alamo rental car confirmations every week, and from those messages I can go to the GoAlamo web site and redirect the car rental to any destination and renter's name that I want. This despite the fact that every email to the address gets a bounce message back.
--
Kee Hinckley
http://www.messagefire.com/          Junk-Free Email Filtering
http://commons.somewhere.com/buzz/   Writings on Technology and Society

I'm not sure which upsets me more: that people are so unwilling to accept
responsibility for their own actions, or that they are so eager to regulate
everyone else's.
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