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6. Solutions - E-postage (was Re: [Asrg] Forbes: Pay up)

2003-07-02 17:00:32
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At 12:46 AM 7/3/2003 +0100, Roy S. Walker wrote:
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"Charge the sender" was discussed yesterday at the famous 'spam summit' at the house of commons in the UK. View seems to be: this will further encourage the practice of spammers to gain control of legitimate email servers, with the intention of sending out spam from an 'authorised' sender (the recent piece on the BBC re British Airways as a source of spam refers..). This idea will NOT work
in practice.  Naive innocents would pick up the charge.

Roy

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On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 16:16:16 -0700, Steve Schear wrote:
>A promising way to curb spam: Charge the sender.
>
>Hoping to stop the evil epidemic of spam, Philip Raymond is putting
>a price
>on it. The 46-year-old software executive has a provisional patent
>on a
>service called Vanquish, which requires e-mail senders to post a
>cash bond
>of 5 cents into a bank account for every piece of e-mail they send.
>If a
>recipient judges the mail to be illegitimate, the sender loses the
>nickel,
>with four pennies going to the recipient's Internet service provider
>and
>one penny going to Vanquish as a processing fee. If the recipient
>okays the
>message, that sender is cleared from then on. But if the human or
>machine
>behind the spam won't post a bond, the message doesn't go through.
>
>With Internet service providers processing 6.9 billion spam messages
>a day,
>the price for senders could add up quickly. "We don't search for
>combinations of words and numbers," Raymond says. "We let recipients
>decide
>if they want it."
>
>In a trial of the service, 400 customers from eight small Internet
>service
>providers were offered Vanquish for free. Vanquish blocked spam
>cold, but
>users also experienced installation problems and delays in checking
>e-mail.
>Vanquish, based outside Boston, says it has fixed the glitches for
>its June
>launch, and aims to have a lofty 35 million users by the end of the
>year.
>It expects ISPs to pay 20 to 45 cents per customer per month.
>
>Raymond, who has started and sold two previous tech firms, figures
>that
>legitimate marketers, accustomed to paying for their messages in
>other
>media, will understand and appreciate Vanquish. As it is, private
>filtering
>systems and spam blacklists block plenty of marketers' e-mails.
>Yahoo and
>AOL have destroyed messages between Procter & Gamble and customers
>who
>agreed to be contacted, as well as acceptance letters to Harvard
>University
>applicants.
>
>Raymond has a good idea--other firms such as IronPort have also
>announced
>spam-bond products--but doesn't have much money. Vanquish is burning
>through $38,000 a month, even with three engineers working for one-
>third of
>their usual salary. Recently Raymond had to beg his advisory board
>for
>another $75,000.
>
>http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2003/0707/110.html
>
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