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Re: [Asrg] Re: 6. Solutions - Digital Certificate Based (was Re: [Asrg] Certs and trusts...)

2003-07-02 17:02:32
Good point...I didn't catch that.

Yakov Shafranovich wrote:

It was some small CA that used to do it. My concern is not with that, but rather with USPS mandating free access without court order to this data. And privacy issues.

At 07:52 PM 7/2/2003 -0400, C. Wegrzyn wrote:

I have yet to see Verisign or Thwate do any in-person stuff. Mostly it is just a simple D&B check with a phone call. This would be more reliable.

Chuck

Yakov Shafranovich wrote:

At 06:51 PM 7/2/2003 -0400, C. Wegrzyn wrote:

I don't know if everyone saw this announcement. It is interesting given the recent conversation we have been having about trust

http://www.ribbs.usps.gov/files/fedreg/usps2003/03-15211.PDF



The USPS program simple provides a way for CAs to do in-person checking. This is similar to what existing CAs offer by requiring some applications to undergo an in-person process (for business mainly), See this quote:

---snip----
Numerous organizations have approached the U.S. Postal Service to conduct In-Person Proofing (IPP) of customers nationwide for physically authenticating an individual's identification at a post office before the organization issues a digital signature certificate to the individual.

The following is a brief description of how IPP would work. An organization can establish a relationship with a qualified U.S. Certificate Authority to integrate digital signing with improved identity verification into an online application. Any individual desiring to use digital certificates that include USPS IPP will complete an application online. The online system will verify the individual's identity via commercial data base checking. The system will then produce a standard Postal Service form to be printed out at the ''applicant's'' personal computer. The individual requesting the service will present this form to a participating post office where the ''In Person Proofing'' process is conducted. After successful completion of the IPP event, the CA will notify the applicant to download their digital certificate.
-----snip-----

HOWEVER, the following requirements worry me (EMPHASIS added):

----snip----
1. Use of a PATRIOT ACT COMPLIANT DATABASE VETTING PROCESS to gain initial assurance of an applicant's identity before sending the applicant to the Postal Office for IPP.

B. Maintaining a secure repository of IDVF forms,

C. Providing access to IDVF forms and customer account information as necessary for investigative purposes by USPS Inspection Service and the USPS Office of Inspector General,

D. Incorporating a new common object identifier (USPS registered OID) for IPP based digital certificates.
----snip----

Centralized data storage of private information, easy access for government agencies without a court order, Patriot ACT, new OID, etc. These things are not needed in order to create such program, so why is the USPS insisting on this?

Yakov
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