"What are you on" is not a useful question to post on this list.
Sorry, meant to say "What are you on about"
I'll risk Paul's wrath and reply in the same unhelpful vein as you have
adopted:-
I guess if you don't understand that there is a very clear distinction
between wanting something and consenting to it we will all do better to
ignore anything you say about the consent model for spam/spam
control/spam
elimination, because you are clearly on something that has reduced your
ability to distinguish basic semantic concepts to the point where you
can't
usefully communicate.
Tom, I do distinguish between "want" and "consent".
If you'll care to re-read my comment you'll note that I
say "You "consent" (express a willingness) to receive them when you sign up
with your supplier, because you need" (i.e. "want") "them."
It appears that you imagine "want" to mean only "really enjoy having".
Clearly an assertion of consent, unless originated by an insane person,
will cover those things "wanted".
To continue your rather strange electrical analogy, I may not like (wish,
"want" in your sense) to be charged, but given that I am charged, I do want
(need, desire) to be sent the bill.
I hopes this clears thing up.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Kyme [mailto:jrk(_at_)merseymail(_dot_)com]
Sent: 03 July 2003 15:17
To: Tom Thomson
Cc: ASRG
Subject: Re: RE: RE: [Asrg] 2. Problem Characterization - Defining spam
within consent paradigm
One trouble here is that one moment you write "does not want" and at >
another > you write "does not consent to" just as if they meant the same
thing. > They > do not mean the same thing. > > I consent to receiving
bills from the people who supply my electricty, > but I > don't want to
receive those bills - I'd much rather have the electricity > free. I
don't
think those bills are spam - in fact I believe that any > definition of
spam
that includes those bills is just plain wrong. So spam What are you on?
Ar
you talking about your electricity or your electricity
bills?
Of course you "want" (need or desire) your electricity bills, given that
your electricity *isn't* free. Otherwise the first thing you'd know is
that
you get a court summons for non-payment. You "consent" (express a
willingness) to receive them when you sign up with your supplier, because
you need them.
What you "want" is a dictionary.
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