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Re: [Asrg] AOL vs the Internet -- Are they opting out? (fwd)

2003-07-28 13:23:09
Dave,

On Sun, Jul 27, 2003 at 08:42:43AM -0700, Dave Crocker wrote:
In many cases, one can not. This changes the issues for authentication
and inter-administration authorization.  Different access services
employ different rules.  Sometimes the rules collide.

Why? Even roaming users access their POP3/IMAP Mailboxes from everywhere.
   Request for Comments: 2554, March 1999
       SMTP Service Extension for Authentication
is four years old. The concept of SMTP after POP is even older.
Authorization shouldn't be that problem.

That is a facile, but not very useful response.  First it contains no
substantiation of such a dismissal, and second it ignores the realities
that users experience.

The reality is that we all suffer. Without pressure and making public
solution that are state-of-the-art for almost 4 years to help the users
add pressure to their provider or even just tell them there ARE
solutions despite what their ISP claims, nothing will change.

And in the end it always breaks down to "you get what you pay for".
One can't expect to get the quality of a Porsche for the price of a
Volkswagen Beetle. In the "real world" everyone understands this
concept. But in the Internet there is "anarchy" and "everything is
possible" and of course it has to be free :/ And with everything that gets
restricted there are a few that are unhappy. However I'd guess that
if no "remote" mailserver would accept emails from dialin IPs at most 1%
of all Internet users would recognize the change at all (besides the drop
of the virus/spam rate that is).

        \Maex

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