Most of it was bulk email with mainly mortgages and viagra pills offers.
However, I do not think my data is large enough to qualify for anything, I
was trying to raise interest in the issue so we can do a large scale study
on it.
At 08:58 PM 8/8/2003, you wrote:
>From the tests that I have done with various honey-pot accounts I have seen
a great increase in the amount of spam that the account receives when I
"unsubscribed". I believe it depends a lot on the type of spam you are using
in your test. Was the spam mostly bulk, or was it semi-solicited? Where the
e-mails originated from somewhere the account you where testing with gave
the address out to that may have "shared" it with other organizations?
Shaun
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C Wegrzyn [mailto:wegrzyn(_at_)garbagedump(_dot_)com]
> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 3:54 PM
> To: Yakov Shafranovich
> Cc: asrg(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
> Subject: Re: [Asrg] 2.a.1. Spam Measurements - Data - Unsubscribe
>
> From what I've heard about the unsubscribe issue is that once you "try"
> to unsubscribe they actually know there is active account. There is a
> spammer in Burlington MA that uses this technique to build email lists.
> I also understand they will send out "free things" types of emails to
> get you to come to the site.
>
> Chuck Wegrzyn
>
>
> Yakov Shafranovich wrote:
> > After trying to do unsubscribe from every spam that I got in a poisoned
> > account, I came with some interesting observations. Of course there is
> > not enough data to make this statistically correct but the empirical
> > observations are interesting.
> >
> > From all the spams that were received in this account in the last 2
> > days, most seem to come from four specific sources. All these sources
> > had unsubscribe pages. When I tried to unsubscribe twice, I got a
> > warning that the address has already been removed. I tried doing this a
> > day apart, it still worked. You can see for yourself at:
> >
> > http://www.med21sx.com/a.html
> >
> > What I am getting from this is that these four specific spammers
> > maintain "remove" lists. One possible reason for them to do so, is that
> > sending spam to people that do not want it anymore, will not provide
> > spammers with any possibility of extra revenue, and may hurt them in the
> > long run because those people if still receiving the spam, will report
> > the spammers. Of course, the other reason could be that its all a ploy
> > or a verify operation.
> >
> > In any case, we need more data on this and preferably a large-scale
> study.
> >
> > Yakov
> >
> >
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