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Re: [Asrg] 6. Proposals - RMX-like implementation via rDNS

2003-09-10 16:42:41
At 6:57 PM -0400 2003/09/10, waltdnes(_at_)waltdnes(_dot_)org wrote:

   "The 'net was designed for..."
   - a clientel consisting of white, male, middle-class military types
     and civilians doing reasearch for the military.  These people needed
     security clearance simply to get on the net, which is why smtp had
     no security designed in.  This clientel would have no incentive to
     spam; doing so would risk their security clearance.

The original ARPAnet was unclassified. Granted, getting access to ARPAnet was extremely difficult, and therefore things like inter/intra protocol security were not priorities. However, this has nothing to do with security clearance.

   - administration by BOFH admins who knew what they were doing

Indeed, most the the users were the admins. Everybody was on a first-name basis. You could look at the way the washer-size disk drives were moving around and tell what jobs were running. You could listen to the printers and tell what was being printed. From half a building away, you could recognize the dimming of the lights and the sound of a crash dump being printed. Knowing that it would take at least thirty minutes to complete, you could be safe in the knowledge that you'd have enough time to eat a leisurely lunch before you had to be back at the office.

   Today, every fourteen-year-old 133t-hax0r-dude can get on.  The vast
 majority of residential customers have problems finding the "ANY" key,
 and are easy targets for evil people who want to take over their
 machines.

Indeed. But many "cures" being proposed seem no better than the disease, and some of them would even seem to be worse. We have to be careful in what we recommend.

       What it all comes down to is that the vast majority of emails sent
 direct-to-mx from residential/dynamic IP addresses is spam.  If you're
 going to accept smtp traffic from another ISP's dynamic IP addresses,
 you need some form of authentication.  This can be the POP-before-SMTP
 hack, or ssh-tunneling, or SSL, or whatever.

Some of us don't have effective alternatives for access. There is only one dominant carrier available, and while their service may just be sufficient to get our bits onto the 'net, they couldn't find their backside if they were stuck into a room with mirrors on all sides and the world's most powerful lighting. We wouldn't route our mail through their servers if our lives depended on it. They are Access Providers, no more.

Indeed, in some countries, the only access available is from providers who explicitly refuse to provide anything more than just bare access, requiring you to get all your service somewhere else.


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