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[Asrg] Re: Request for MS CID XML samples...

2004-03-04 15:59:32

me...
It'd be interesting to see real-life examples for msn.net,
microsoft.com, and sendmail.com for study.

Ok, teach a man to fish: dig -t txt _ep.microsoft.com

The record I get back right now from microsoft.com is (reformatted
slightly by me for ease of reading):

  <ep xmlns='http://ms.net/1' testing='true'><out><m>"
    "<mx/>
    <a>213.199.128.160</a>
    <a>213.199.128.145</a>
    <a>207.46.71.29</a>
    <a>194.121.59.20</a>
    <a>157.60.216.10</a>
    <a>131.107.3.116</a>
    <a>131.107.3.117</a>
    <a>131.107.3.100</a>"
  "</m></out></ep>"

However, looking through our logs I see that in the past 24 hours or
so we've received email from someone(_at_)microsoft(_dot_)com from the following
hosts which do not appear in that list:

      207.46.248.64       delivery.pens.microsoft.com
      207.46.248.65       delivery.pens.microsoft.com
      207.46.248.66       delivery.pens.microsoft.com
      207.46.248.67       delivery.pens.microsoft.com
      207.46.248.69       delivery.pens.microsoft.com

      131.107.3.121       mail5.microsoft.com
      131.107.3.124       mail2.microsoft.com
      131.107.3.126       mail6.microsoft.com

and, perhaps an interesting case:

      209.11.164.116      mh.microsoft.m0.net

interesting because m0.net is probably being paid to send e-mail
marketing on behalf of microsoft so the only way they'd be getting
through in this new regime would be if microsoft listed them as
authorized in their _ep record.

I suppose they (m0.net) could use the Sender: or similar alternative
but looking at an actual example I see that they (m0.net) do not. So
it'd have to be in microsoft.com's list and as far as I can tell it's
not.

So, anyone want to take a reasonable stab at these discrepancies?

By reasonable, I'm hoping for something more than "maybe the _ep
record was different when those msgs flew" because that doesn't seem
likely given the actual examples, unless you know this for a fact.

Is the microsoft.com record complete or not?

Or am I misunderstanding something?

And, if it's not complete, why not and, to reiterate my original
request, what would a complete record look like?

Thank you.

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        -Barry Shein

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