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2004-04-28 15:18:05

Yeah well via some creative editing you managed to reverse my point
and create a straw man to argue with.

The responded-to claim was that it's difficult if not impossible to
imagine a system which could impose a charging mechanism on 5 billion
e-mail msgs/day, too many transactions.

I countred that the fact that we obviously handle those 5B msgs/day
would not seem to argue AGAINST the possibility of adding a little
more processing to each, it would seem to argue FOR the possibility.


But a proof? No, not a proof, not either way. Which was my point
exactly.



On April 27, 2004 at 19:51 pbaker(_at_)verisign(_dot_)com (Hallam-Baker, 
Phillip) wrote:

5 billion transactions per day doesn't impress me as proof positive
of anything, particularly world-wide.

Obviously if we can deliver that many emails per day THEN WE CLEARLY
CAN HANDLE THAT MANY TRANSACTIONS PER DAY! Nicht wahr?

The fact we perform 5 billion transactions with no charge mechanism in an
entirely decentralized fashion does not provide an existence proof for
being able to resolve 5 billion charge transactions.

VeriSign handles 5 billion transactions a day and many milions of payment
transactions, they even flow through some of the same systems. But they
are not directly equivalent. A single payment transaction costs several 
hundred times more to support than a single DNS transaction.

Funny thing is that the minute I suggest accreditation, which would
involve each mail server requiring an SSL cert equivalent we have people
railing against 'the VeriSign tax'. Then folk go and suggest a payment
system which will inevitably require micropayments. Go work out where
the cybercash IP is owned.

I don't see the market opportunity here. Setting up a system that could
handle the demands is certainly possible, it is already in place for the 
telephone. But the telephone markets are trending towards flat fee 
charging.


             Phill

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