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Re: [Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers

2004-09-10 16:16:07

On September 10, 2004 at 11:05 sethb(_at_)panix(_dot_)com (Seth Breidbart) 
wrote:
It's an arms race, as always.  No single weapon wins.

This is a cliche which could apply just as well to painting ourselves
blue and dancing a cha-cha.

SPF helps.  Here's how, in the presence of domain-burning
SPF-publishing spammers:

1. Greylisting:  Email from a new domain that passes SPF is greylisted
   for 30 minutes.

What about from the huge dialup/ppp domain pools like AOL, ATT,
earthlink, tiscali, interbusiness, tpnet.pl, retevision.es,
prod-infinitum.mx, plala.or.jp, hkcable.com.hk, comcast, verizon, etc
etc etc etc.?

Because it's zombie'd PCs on those broadband nets which account for
nearly all the spam.

2. Spamtraps: Email that hits a spamtrap, and which passes SPF, causes
   the domain to be blacklisted.  This will typically take well under
   30 minutes for a serious spam run.

3. When the greylisting expires, the domain is blacklisted.

The spammer has an incentive to push out crap quickly, in order to get
a lot past the non-greylisting receivers before he hits the blacklist;
he also has an incentive to push crap out slowly, hoping to get some
through to the greylisting sites before he hits the blacklists.

This is a vague, probabilistic attack on an outdated method of
spamming.

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