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Re: [Asrg] SICS

2004-12-21 19:24:37

I don't know since we block so much at the ingress, such as vast
swaths of broadband pools which have been a problem, etc.

It's difficult to measure what you block.

I will say that another huge part of the problem is the stuff no one
ever sees which is the bazillions of user unknowns as the spammers use
various dictionary type attacks. There's far more user unknown
attempted deliveries than other deliveries.

So, even if you knew what went (or would go) into peoples' mailboxes,
opening the floodgates (AKA accepting EFF's point of view) would also
necessitate sifting through all that spew, increasing costs
significantly.

Someone would have to pay for that also, and removing those blocks is
the only way to allow what's called "end-user control" since you don't
know it's for a non-existant user until you let them begin delivery.


On December 22, 2004 at 09:36 laird(_at_)lbreyer(_dot_)com (Laird Breyer) wrote:
On Dec 21 2004, Barry Shein wrote:

At this point there are only two choices, either block at the ingress
(e.g., blocking network blocks and similar), or begin charging around
$1000/month for e-mail accounts to pay for the bandwidth and hardware
necessary to keep up with the unfettered flow (essentially, a
dedicated server with a dedicated T1 per mailbox.)


Since you're an ISP, could you indicate roughly the numbers you are
talking about (per user if you like)?  How many inbound raw mails per
day? How much total mail data (megabytes) per day? How much total
traffic of all types per day? 

I don't know if the list already has discussed those kinds of numbers, 
but I'd like to get an idea of the current order of magnitude of the
problem, from the provider's POV. If others have numbers to share for
ISPs, let's hear them too.

-- 
Laird Breyer.

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