On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 18:31, John Levine <johnl(_at_)taugh(_dot_)com> wrote:
There are 650 recipients on this mailing list. Are you willing to pay
$32.50 for each message you send to it? If not, do you think someone
else should pay? Who should it be?
I assume that people who wanted to receive mail from non-commercial
mailing lists like this one would need to agree to receive it without
payment.
Now wait a minute. A day ago someone purporting to be you said that
even at a nickel a message the cost would be trivial:
If it cost me a penny to send each e-mail, I don't see that it would
make any difference to how much e-mail I sent. You could probably
even increase the price to 5c per message and I wouldn't blink.
Now we find that outgoing mail is so expensive that you want special
rules to avoid paying for some of it.
No, I'd happily pay a nickel a message for messages send to this mailing
list.
The problem is that the mailing list software is multiplying up the traffic,
adding additional cost. That additional cost is another issue entirely, and
requiring that participants in lists such as this use whitelists--i.e. share
the cost--is a reasonable suggestion, it seems to me.
For that matter, if
people are willing to waive the fee for mail from the IRTF, why
wouldn't they waive the fee on every list they sign up for, commercial
or otherwise?
If they want to, they can. That leaves them in exactly the same position
they're in today.
That's one of the key points of an attention bond system--nobody has to
impose it on their friends. That's why I prefer it to Barry Shein's idea of
more centralized, standardized charges.
Finally, if we'd still need special handling to whitelist the mail we T
think is nice, what problem would a vast e-postage system be solving ?
The problem of the 99% of e-mail that isn't from mailing lists like this
one, of which 95% is spam.
Like I said, I *already* give mailing lists like this one special handling.
So just a matter of the filter changing from "Skip inbox, place in IETF
folder" to "Ignore the fact that no attention bond was enclosed, skip inbox,
place in IETF folder".
mathew
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