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Re: [Asrg] Implementing IPv6 DNSBLs

2010-12-10 19:50:54
On 12/9/10 9:00 PM, John Levine wrote:
 If we can't fit stuff into the existing non-DNSSEC DNS, the next
 question is to compare the benefits of inventing and implementing a
 special-purpose hack, rather than adjusting our servers and clients
 to take advantage of existing DNSSEC facilities.

IPv6 represents an incomprehensibly large space. Just the global and subnet portion of v6 assigned to an individual ISP might span the entire v4 space. The lower 64 bits, the v6 interface, is not likely assigned linearly, so CIDRs within v6 interfaces will be of little value. The size of the v6 interface represents the v4 space times the v4 space, or v4^2 for 1.8 x 10^19 possible hosts on 7.2 x 10^16 networks. Divided evenly, this could allow every person on the planet to control 14 million networks, so why be frugal?

There will be any number of tunnels joining v6 elements. Traversing reverse DNS as a service is not practical for v6 interface space. It is also rather dubious to suggest services that source the entire v6 abuse space. 15kRPM SAS drives are able to hold ~600GB of data with an average 2MS latency. At only one bit per address, this maps only 4.8 x 10^12 elements. To linearly map just the global and subnet v6 space, which is smaller than just one v6 interface, 15,000 of these drives would be needed.

It is ridiculous to suggest RBLs would be able to map out even one v6 interface. By excluding the v6 interface space, granularity becomes much less of a concern. This suggests every MTA should have their own network, since they will likely suffer the fate of the entire v6 interface, with possible exceptions granted by white-lists.

-Doug
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