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Re: [clear] CSV adoption appears to have stalled?

2005-12-16 18:23:09

On Dec 16, 2005, at 4:44 PM, Matthew Elvey wrote:

Let's see. Full adoption of SPF would require about 100,000,000 domains adopt it. Full adoption of CSV would require about 100,000 domains adopt it. So if we factor in that ratio, CSV is seeing broader adoption than SPF.

As a means of dealing with forged DSNs, beneficial levels of adoption for BATV would only require 1 domain. The 2 extra TCP packets exchanged beyond block-listing with error messages for BATV is considered by some as a burden. Imagine asking the recipient to make as many as 111 DNS lookups. : (

If email is to be taken seriously as a method for commerce, false positive detections can not be ignored. With everyone filtering DSNs, email will never be as reliable as the postal service. BATV will help reduce the amount of indiscriminate DSN filtering, and CSV can help eliminate collateral blocking by introducing the use of name- based reputation.

Name-space reputation can also defend something able to defeat routing exploits like DKIM. DKIM requires the entire exchange of the message and milli-seconds of CPU. CSV and DKIM add one DNS lookup each for this protection. Could the DKIM key be used to check an encrypted local-part EHLO to get this down to one. : )

-Doug




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