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Re: [ietf-dkim] list expanders (was Re: chained signatures, was l= summary)

2009-06-15 06:46:31
On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 21:51:45 +0100, SM <sm(_at_)resistor(_dot_)net> wrote:

At 11:51 13-06-2009, Charles Lindsey wrote:
But there will be a few lists where this is not the case, such as the  
one
SM mentions. I don't know whether the spam on that particular list is
because the list admin is careless, or whether it is inherent in the
subject matter of the list. ...

There's more than one list admin.  The subject matter is
technical.  The issue is not whether the list admin is
careless.  There are a lot of mailing lists administered by part time
administrators.  If we start playing the blame game, it will work  
against DKIM.

And every list will be diferent, so we need to look at real examples. And  
by a strange coincidence, we have just seen a concrete example on a list  
well-known to all of us. Here it is, including all headers that appear  
relevant, so let us now discuss how the list manager handled this  
particular case, and whether he has left enough evidence for us to work  
out how this evident spam got onto the list, and whether he could have  
done things any differently.

Some observations:
1. The list manager has altered the message beyond what might have been  
rescued by any l= tag.
2. Nevertheless, it would seem that the original message could have been  
recovered sufficiently to check the original signature (had it been  
preserved), without too much difficulty.
3. The X-Greylist headers are "interesting".

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Subject: [ietf-dkim] Check out my photos on Facebook
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Hi ietf-dkim(_at_)mipassoc(_dot_)org,

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events and I want to add you as a friend so you can see it. First, you  
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