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Re: RFC2821 vs. RFC2822 signatures.

2004-09-29 08:33:17

On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 12:51:26 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
 So if we accept the extra complexity of signing with the
 RFC2822 addresses, we need to make sure it's not easily
 bypassable by adding 'Sender:' or 'Resent-From:' headers. I
 think we really need to go all the way and do the thing with
 multiple signatures.

I suspect there is a rather deep dilemma highlighted by your 
comment.  On the one hand, there is a desire to develop a 
"complete" solution.  On the other, there is the need to do 
something (anything) that is useful.

The former leads to larger, more complex specifications that take 
longer to produce and is more fragile -- adoption and successful 
use are riskier.  The latter attempts to achieve less but 
achieves it more reliably and more quickly.

Perhaps the critical issue is "easily bypassable"?  It has at 
least two forms of concern.  One is whether a specified technique 
can be directly subverted -- that is, can it be made not to work. 
The other is whether some larger goal by an attacker can be 
served by techniques that gets the recipient to misinterpret 
things.

My guess is that header/content signature can be made strong 
enough.  So the issue is the larger problem of manipulating 
recipients.

My own view is that this larger problem is solved only by 
attacking pieces of it.  And header/content signing is one of 
those pieces.

d/
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Dave Crocker  <mailto:dcrocker-at-brandenburg-dot-com>
Brandenburg InternetWorking  <http://brandenburg.com>





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