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Re: [Back to Normal] RE: Three major areas of concentration

2004-03-10 17:31:17

Folks,

Before this thread spirals too far out of control, let me offer the following:

1) The IETF will charter a working group to work on this problem. The working group will have some name. 2) The working group will author some number (hopefully at least 1) of RFCs that implement various technologies to address the MTA authorization problem(s). Each of these technologies will likely have a "short" or common name.

As a general practice, let's not get too caught up in naming at the moment. I'm sure some people will see bias, intended or not, with a phrase like "SPF-like" or "RMX-based" or "MTAMark-derived." But hopefully as engineers on this list, we'll be able to look past that for this interim period. We should probably pick a non-controversial phrase and forgive people who don't.

How's that?
-Edwin



Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote:

This is a political issue, not a technical one.

Politics matter, this is all about deployment, the only reason I care about a standards imprimatur is to the extent it helps to
drive deployment.

My advice here is the same I am giving to the RSS/Atom group. Look
to your strongest brands. RSS is a significant brand, but it does
need standards support to improve the spec. It makes sense to borrow
as much as you can from the Atom specsmanship and the RSS legacy base, but keep the RSS brand.

At this point SPF has established a brand. So has CallerID. Don't
try to remake those brands unless you really have to.

Last time I saw the IETF trying to change a name was SSL to TLS. And
its still SSL as far as everyone is concerned.

                Phill

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-ietf-mxcomp(_at_)mail(_dot_)imc(_dot_)org]On Behalf Of Gordon 
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-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Three major areas of concentration

In the future, with wide deployment of an SPF-like
Nice to know some things don't change.

Before this turns into a problem that split the ASRG-RMX mailing list a few months ago, let's all watch the video from last week again. And again.
Until all egos are sufficiently deflated.[1]

[1] Before anyone cites Pot, Kettle, Black, know that this includes me, too.
If I can do it, so can you.

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